Narcissism Research Table 4

02 Sep, 2025

Narcissism Research Table 4 Symptom No. Symptom Link Research Research Link 751 The ultimate grace is intuited in even the harmonics of orbit-congruity, showing interchangeable use of grace with the sun, where the sun is the perfect, organizing gravitational force for the solar system. What would otherwise be a clutter of collapsing, crashing space detritus with one space rock just as good as the other has now become a profoundly organized system and even allows for the extremely fragile miracle of water and water-based life to exist. Thus the relationship to rationality as the psychologically organizing equivalent psychological force to gravity’s physical organizing force is seen. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hlwibx/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION Part 2 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 752 Theological answers to envy: Envy, rivalry, the scapegoat mechanism and the cycle of violence all intersect. Girard emphasizes again that the scapegoat mechanism post-Christ is an act of Satan, even if those putting forth the recreation allege to be Christain. Trying to replicate the Christ-state and scapegoating and entrapping an innocent post-Christ is considered an act of Satan. Christ was the final Christ, that is why he is Christ. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hlwibx/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION Part 2 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 753 Mimetic envy: Much of envy as the Satanic act and the Satanic motive is mimetic. As Lucifer had enough “gravity” to feel like he might be able to “afford” to best God, only to learn God was a state, a system, and a unity of reference (an object being a mere representations of truths the mind cannot yet conceive), he instead unearthed disorganizations and disharmonies he had no foresight into. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hlwibx/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION Part 2 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 754 Satanic attempts to recreate Christ on women, borne largely out of deep aggressive envy of other women and men identifiable as the person attempting to initiate the "father of lies" scapegoating mechanism on the envied woman: Christ is historically understood as a man, but there are women that bore the envy of others without having done any wrong. For instance, Hypatia was the victim of “rivalry envy” where several men went into rivalry over her when she had done nothing to deserve this, teaching very cut and dry subjects like astronomy and mathematics, and the tension of the rivalry collapsed from its containment and spilled over onto the victim. Edit: Hypatia was post-Christ, therefore her victimization was technically, as defined by Christian theological work, a Satanic act. (c. 350–370 - March 415 AD) They did not apprehend the root causes; envy, scapegoat, rivalry, an overwhelming clash of competing scandals. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hlwibx/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION Part 2 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 755 Shame rejection-projection-destruction mechanism in the narcissistic psychopath: Inaccurate projections are obvious and apparent in the Satanic. The person rejects what is deep within themselves and attempts to shift their struggle onto the innocent victim as if somehow this will rid them of it in themselves, when rather nothing will do this except taking responsibility. This same shame rejection-projection-destruction mechanism is described on serial killers which often actively endorse the Satanic, likely for these mechanisms that are in resonance to personality disorders in their psychology. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 3 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 756 Schwager's collective evil as the unexplainably bad collective projection: Unexplainably inaccurate projections are explained by Raymond Schwager who states that in collective evil, collective projection occurs onto the innocent victim, i.e., the accusations are things the mass group struggles with, not things the victim has done. It has a very similar mechanism to sexual violence hoping the sheer overwhelm will make the false true. It doesn’t. For example, serial killers may have aberrantly bad projections onto their victims, claiming they just knew the victim wanted them to do certain acts to them when that was completely wrong and a psychopathic projection. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 3 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 757 Psychopathic mimicry as it relates to accuser, self-deifier, hardener of hearts, and possessor: Self-deification causes an equivalent to psychopathic mimicry; Schwager notes how Satan also has four mechanisms; accuser, self-deifier, hardener of hearts, and possessor. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 3 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 758 No narrative for scapegoating will be enough when envy is the motive, and this is understood as Satan in theological thought: Satan also is understood as exploiting the envy mechanism; the Satanic watches carefully for those people who are already envious of an individual and lusting for an excuse to actualize their envy upon them. When envy is of an extreme level, any narrative proven false will be replaced with a new one to rationalize the envious Satanic energy. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 3 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 759 The Satanic impulse again begins as an envy towards God and an attempt to experience the God experience; to appropriate. Appropriation without citation is often a complaint of minority cultures, but increasing AI culture is riddled with it as well in order for these AI appropriators to feel less inferior. It is still appropriation. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 3 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 760 Mimetic temptation is acting like psychologically charged and positive figure to cause bad effects to the victim. Baiting and grooming by pedophiles comes to mind. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 3 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 761 Acquisitive mimesis: Acquisitive mimesis differs from mimetic temptation because it is wanting to have what another desires and taking it for oneself hoping to experience and eventually full take its full power for oneself no matter how sickening it can get. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 3 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 762 Mimetic temptation by the ill-intended Lucifer in theological studies, aka trying to achieve rapport to get defenses down only to cause serious harm also found on serial killers: Temptation is used to get people to be scapegoated and cast out of what can protect them. For instance, Lucifer stokes the reactance of Adam and Eve, giving false promises that they can be like God, to get them cast out by God as an act of mimetic temptation with nothing but ill will for them at the heart of his act. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 3 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 763 Mimetic rivalry: Mimetic rivalry is the attempt to study and act like another in order to beat them. In the story of Cain and Abel, despite God’s repeated warnings, Cain ultimately is puppetted by his desire instead of his desire being mastered by him and kills his own brother against everything God warned. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 3 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 764 Concupiscence: Concupiscence is the propensity or inclination of human beings to be caught up in mimetic rivalries by succumbing to the temptation of envy to participate, ultimately, in the cycle of violence. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 3 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 765 The attempt to possess a function of balance where the grasping is already too imbalanced to potentially ever be able to even achieve shared partaking: Here pride as grandiose narcissism is described as the rebellion against God, which is a God-state one is within, like an orbit around the sun, and not something one can mimetically possess. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 3 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 766 Vanity is highlighted in the attempt to be God due to the sheer computational overwhelm of anyone trying to understand anything sufficiently large, much less God. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 3 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 767 Being beautiful is one thing, it is likely to stoke narcissistic injury just for existence and to be scapegoated just for its presence, as seen by the insane excesses in the Amber Heard trial where the opposing lawyer, another woman, would not even let her speak sometimes even though Amber Heard was respectful, even-keeled, and completely compliant with the legal process. It was well over the bounds of zeal and spoke of a nearly sexual catharsis of sheer envy within the female lawyer. That energy was palpable. It was too luxuriant in its extreme vitriol. What is bizarre is Amber Heard is pretty overtly feminist, and simply for her beauty she has been betrayed by alleged other feminists. This suggests that they are not in fact feminist, but failed self-deifications and for some feminists, feminism is a convenient narrative to normalize simply having lost at what they would absolutely immediately desire to win if they could. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 3 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 768 There is substantial theological content on excess of ego inflations inherent in pride; aka, apt descriptions of grandiose and vulnerable narcissism. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 3 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 769 Without this will, it is no longer considered in theological work to be in accordance with God, and is disharmonic, aka, collapsed, destructive, violent, violating and irrational in its final works. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 3 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 770 Acquisitive mimesis in Satanic parasitism: Thinking with vanity that one’s will can be separated from the God-state and trying to best the God-state using itself as a form of egoic vanity compromises the disharmonic, irrational, and collapsed; essentially one is using one’s God given power to destroy the source of the power and then to think that that power will remain. It is completely collapsed logic and a Satanic act. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 3 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 771 Grieving over man’s Good or divine excellence was also considered a Satanic act. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 3 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 772 Theological grandiose narcissism: Grandiose narcissism is also identified in the fact the suggestion that one will “be like God” is the father of lies (the lie of all lies). https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 3 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 773 Here, the theological work describes that envy follows from pride. That someone can be something in a way that is pointedly and palpably injurious to one’s pride plants the seed of envy and envy comes to fruition. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 3 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 774 Envy also suggests a “refusal of good will”; again to bring the analogy of a tuning fork, the more positive rendition of the Luciferean can be seen as a greater desire for more sense in the world beyond small, but not deeply comprehending, experiences. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 3 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 775 Theological hatred of the gifted as Satanic, where viewing it as potential for real good to be done in the world as an act of God is deistic: Lucifer’s envy turned him into Satan. He envied God’s favor, the gifts and specialness of others, desiring them for himself. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 4 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 776 Cognitive rigidity and inability to share space and rank as the beginning places of pride that create envy and with envy the Satanic: Jealousy by Lucifer of Mary: Lucifer feels hierarchy has been violated in God’s plan to make Mary the mother of Christ, and therefore God's queen. He feels this is beneath him, and also clearly feels a vaguely homoerotic competition for the queen position as his description before the fall was very similar, "bearer of light" and "the most beautiful", and from vanity rebels, his comprehension of the situation completely collapsed unable to adapt to the concept of God’s plan over his rigid understanding of hierarchy. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 4 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 777 Narcissistic male failure to adapt to God's plan theologically as the root of the sin of misogyny: Lucifer’s hatred of Mary destroying his sense of hierarchy and showing the resulting collapsed comprehension of and adherence to God’s plan is considered to some theologists the origins of misogyny, which then coincides with the beginning of the Satanic, in agreement with the premises of this subreddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 4 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 778 TW: rape. Envy motives within rape as womb envy: Thus a vague womb envy precedes the fall of Lucifer as well, an acts of this type of Satanic envy may be types that attack, instead of sanctify, the womb. The burning of a church as understood from this perspective may be such envy-based womb envy, carrying a very similar energy to rape itself with womb envy at the root. The Satanic attack of the church instead of its respectful citation can therefore carry the rape as womb envy energy. Burning of churches, stealing of church housing, etc., can be analogous manifestations of what is essentially the original Luciferian womb envy of Mary. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 4 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 779 The attack of Hypatia as a Satanic act in hatred and defiance of God's plan: Many Satanic acts, like the one mentioned toward Hypatia as a Christ-like figure post Christ rendering it Satanic, are attributed to this fact. The author clearly states that this is on them though and they can’t just say that Satan took them over. The fact that they challenged God’s plan from sheer envy, jealousy, and a collapsed sense of hierarchy from which they derived their vanity is inherent in the Satanic. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 4 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 780 Theological rationality as a force against Satanic narcissism. Jesus is a specific person, located at a specific point in time who lived for a specific amount of time. Failing to do due diligence to this analytically results in acts of Satan: "But it goes further and says that the end of these evil acts are to make the cycle stop with Jesus, and that that is the only way out of it; to entrust the final destruction of the scapegoating mechanism onto Jesus, who was born at the zero point of the Christian timeline, and died just a few decades later. The attempts to recreate this or claim this beyond this person clearly demarcated on the Christian timeline are considered clear acts of Satanism because they do not see Jesus as the final end to sin, envy and hatred." https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 4 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 781 Envy cancels out the work of intelligence to the point one might as well just not be intelligent to begin with when the net good is balanced out: Lucifer collapses into envy, loses his gift of light as the illuminating intelligence of the world, and rather comes to rule darkness as here defined as “the inability to see”, and a pervasive gracelessness. It represents therefore the force of confusion and the collapse of intelligence. This may be in contrast to understandings of Lucifer still as angel as possessed of more gravity of intelligence that ultimately collapsed him due to the deep vanity it stoked in himself. What intelligence he did have that made him comparatively more alone was no match for the envy that resulted when he met at least an equal, an experience he was not ready for or used to given the envy it stoked in him being such a new experience, and in the end it was as if he might as well have had no intelligence at all when the tension between intelligence and envy were finally balanced out. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 4 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 782 Lost beauty contest as a common cause of narcissistic hate in those with high pride and envy, where to be Christlike in theological thought is to transcend and outthink the whole mimetic rivalry framework altogether: Elements of womb envy are even discussed in the collapse of Lucifer into Satanic envy. Lucifer was described as “the bearer of the dawn” and “the most beautiful” but when Mary arrived to have the child Christ, she was the bearer of Christ and the most sanctified and beautiful for her gracefulness. Lucifer was also full of hatred due to Mary being more beautiful when he had considered and internalized his position as the most beautiful before she came around. So much of the now collapsed Satan’s hate may even be hate from a lost beauty contest perspective. Lucifer became full of hate, unable to relinquish his position for God’s plan just as he was unable to relinquish his sense of hierarchy for a new one. He shows a cognitive rigidity and a failure to adapt that collapses him into an envy so profound the Satanic is born. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 4 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 783 Vanity and envy are seen as the logic of evil and the reason for the rebelling against benevolence. Christianity is comprised of some of the most deeply and profoundly beautiful architecture across Europe and other parts of the world. The desire to burn these churches up or see their collapse and destruction, feeling anger at the smallness or the vanity it stokes is again the question of why rebelling against benevolence, a beautiful church that all can apprehend, belies the nature of the Satanic. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 4 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 784 Mimetic rivalry therefore carries envy and vanity and is at the root of the Satanic. Again just this feature is seen on serial killers, torturers and psychopaths in the pieces on Bacon and histrionic antisocial proclivity. Thus Satanism answers the desire to be relieved of unbearable envy often found in the psychopath with strong narcissistic features. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 4 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 785 Benevolent envy as more like admiration and malicious envy as a source of true evil were deciphered by Aquinas well before they were deciphered by any modern psychology. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 4 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 786 The grotesque of violence and malicious envy within the family is made the analogy for the demarcation of clearly present Satanic energy. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 4 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 787 There is a “structure” of evil in the sense that evil is a distorted mimicry of the good and antithetically opposed to it. This is essentially parasitism; to take for oneself what one has no power to create and to destroy the source that created it, which is the source of one’s stolen power, as if doing so will not kill both the person in Satanic envy taking from them rendering them powerless as their parasitic host is gone and as well as killing the true creator as the host. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 4 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 788 The relationship to the church is meant to resemble the relationship of a child to a healthy and trustworthy parent; the mind naturally develops in imitation and does not fail to cite the source, nor is hurt, destroyed, or damaged by the source in return. It is like a vine growing on a support. Envy in the parent precludes the possibility of this and again is the rigid and collapsed comprehension of hierarchy that demarcates the Satanic; malicious envy insisting on old hierarchies that better favored their vanity now in opposition to God’s plan which is shifting to new sources of light in grace in the world, such as the new generation, as it is meant to be. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 4 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 789 Mary is possessed of “sufficient grace” that she does not succumb to the mechanisms of evil, aka, rivalrous mimetic desire. She desires instead to be in accordance with the God-state without violating it by pretending it is all entirely described as within her and therefore can be safely discarded; her “sufficient grace” allows her to know it cannot. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 4 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 790 Mary’s transcendence of envy and vanity are her strong comprehension and embodiment of humility and charity as non-threatening to her ego and deeply worthy in their grace. These traits are natural traits of mothering. Her feeling of an abundance of grace within her prevents her from feeling envy. It is the same grace a mother gives to one’s child, who cannot pay one back nor should be forced to do so. It is also the grace of allowing the new generation to usurp parts of oneself and to be full of genuine joy for this because this is how it should be, as God's plan to become more and more aligned with the God-state. It comes naturally to her, so God has found her beautiful, which is described in the chant “Hail Mary full of grace”. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 4 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 791 Willingness to help with works of light in the world, helpfulness, and descriptions of altruism are used to describe acts of grace in Mary. Her comparative gracefulness keeps her from feeling negative emotions or threatened by them. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 4 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 792 Humility and gratitude are given as virtues of Mary that work in the world against the vanity, envy and pride of Satan. They are choices Mary makes from the freedom of her will, nobody is forcing her into them. Thus she is full of grace. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 4 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 793 Discrediting and corrupting as an expression of envious Satanic sabotage: This may be considered equivalent of how the devil may infiltrate the church through corrupt individuals working its way into its deepest features. Since the devil cannot best the church, as a worldly manifestation of the God-state in a form the human mind can comprehend and is always deeply embedded in, it will do anything it can to discredit it through corrupt individuals that do true evil and damage its name to God and the world. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 4 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 794 The importance of ritual in keeping in memory the real threat of repeating the Satanic act if one falls into forgetting and collapses into envy: Understanding and renewing Christ’s sacrifice as the final cycle stopper prevents its recreation, thus it is suggested that rituals that keep this in mind to human’s fallacious memory are suggested in the paper. By keeping it in memory, it buttresses the community against the destructive effects of mimetic envy and violence that are the clear demarcation of the presence of the Satanic. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 4 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 795 The healthy parent-child relationships as preventative of narcissism: Again, the idea of the parent-child relationship as a vine on a support, with no destructive influence from the support as underlies the Satanic envy, is in contrast to the parasitic mimicry of the envied being and using the power one derives through the fraud to destroy the very thing they’re deriving it from (parasitism).Imitation of the benevolent is encouraged, but destruction, defamation and mockery of it behind closed doors is not. That is the nature of the ungrateful which quickly becomes the envious and then quickly becomes the Satanic. The presence of grace in parents prevents the profoundly damaging effects of a parent or both parents being maliciously jealous of their child. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 4 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 796 Real enmity is seen between the woman and the serpent carrying these Satanic mimetic rivalries. Real enmity is sometimes the only way to fight off a truly bad mimetic rival who is in clear parasitism to their host (in parasitism, the parasite is in mimetic rivalry is doing really well at the expense of the host, which is doing very poorly, thus the parasite fails inherently on sustainable architectures): The parasitic often views the revelation of its parasitism as a retaliatory challenge, often compulsively out of control of its retaliation, and shows again the presence of no real grace and self-reflection at the finding. This is why enmity is often the only way out. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 4 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 797 Jesus again reflects the cyclebreaker of the end of mimetic rivalry and envy upon this world. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 4 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 798 The cycle of narcissism as mimetic rivalry and envy was ended in sanctifying grace according to theological tradition: Positively stated, the dogma says that Mary entered existence in a state of sanctifying grace. Sanctifying grace is an absolutely supernatural solution to fallen nature—a gift that transforms reality. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 4 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 799 The Thomisitic tradition, well before modern organized psychology, correctly apprehended and differentiated benevolent and malicious envy, and correctly apprehended and differentiated their massive differences in negative impact (malicious envy is capable of true irreparable damage). To ignore the influence and contribution of the church would be Satanic itself, and bound to collapse sooner rather than later due to the general poor architecture of parasitism in general. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hnx9dc/woman_without_envy_toward_reconceiving_the/ WOMAN WITHOUT ENVY: TOWARD RECONCEIVING THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, Part 4 https://ts-current-a.s3.amazonaws.com/ts-2011-volume72-issue1/004056391107200102.pdf 800 Narcissism is a social trap like addiction where the benefits are short term and emotional and in the long term are are costly to the individual and others, but the short term catharsis of a vanity-based abuse always beats in a narcissist the long-term noxious reputation of having a moral disorder. This is the same mechanism behind addiction; overweighting the short term without deference to the long term. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hon9nj/the_lure_of_the_noisy_ego_narcissism_as_a_social/ The Lure of the Noisy Ego: Narcissism as a Social Trap, Part 1 https://www.sakkyndig.com/psykologi/artvit/campbell2008.pdf 801 Narcissistic individuals do not value communal traits, such as warmth and agreeableness, and feel entitled to special treatment seeing themselves as special and unique. They tend to be identifiable by very low scores on agreeableness and overall a devaluation of agreeableness in general. It is a rigid, broken feature of the personality that is noticeable, noxious, not logical to the situations in which they are in and ongoing. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hon9nj/the_lure_of_the_noisy_ego_narcissism_as_a_social/ The Lure of the Noisy Ego: Narcissism as a Social Trap, Part 1 https://www.sakkyndig.com/psykologi/artvit/campbell2008.pdf 802 Narcissists don’t value charity, humility, agreeableness or other communal values and therefore based on the piece on the Satanic, they likely resonate with this and are drawn to it. “This lack of concern for others allows for a greater degree of interpersonal exploitation and manipulation in the service of self-regulation.” Essentially, narcissists not only engage in low agreeable and noisy ego abuse for the high of it, but also to self-regulate; they genuinely think the harm of others is a way for them to self-regulate when their inflations are just not high enough. Seeing the harm and pain they cause makes them feel important and self-regulates them. Thus, they have a moral disorder. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hon9nj/the_lure_of_the_noisy_ego_narcissism_as_a_social/ The Lure of the Noisy Ego: Narcissism as a Social Trap, Part 1 https://www.sakkyndig.com/psykologi/artvit/campbell2008.pdf 803 If things are too prosocial, it will dysregulate narcissists and they will think of something nasty and unexpected to do to self-regulate. This is why it is pathological and can be critical to one’s health to avoid; they do it just to do it in terms of self-regulation. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hon9nj/the_lure_of_the_noisy_ego_narcissism_as_a_social/ The Lure of the Noisy Ego: Narcissism as a Social Trap, Part 1 https://www.sakkyndig.com/psykologi/artvit/campbell2008.pdf 804 Narcissists tend to be narcissists like this and think they are the director of the people they receive narcissistic self-enhancement from. They will often cite things like this like the “person not giving them anything” emotionally speaking like they are a director in a film when there is no film, there is no contract, and they don’t deserve anything having done nothing but create moral disorder.This is exactly how you want them to feel and is the proper returned answer for their failure to give the community anything in general. They do not deserve anything other than their “give nothing and devalue warmth, humility, community, altruism, charity, agreeableness” energy back. If you give narcissists anything, you will never see it back. They don’t value reciprocity. They will betray you at the first opportunity. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hon9nj/the_lure_of_the_noisy_ego_narcissism_as_a_social/ The Lure of the Noisy Ego: Narcissism as a Social Trap, Part 1 https://www.sakkyndig.com/psykologi/artvit/campbell2008.pdf 805 Christmas is a hard time for them because gift-giving causes them to quiet their ego down and think of someone else and this is exactly what they don’t want to do. They want to be thought of, not to think of. Complaints about not receiving as many gifts or any gifts while never having bought the person one gift, or an offhand/covertly insulting gift meant to devalue or humiliate because another prosocial person forced them to would be the clear narcissism of the narcissistic personality disordered individual at work. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hon9nj/the_lure_of_the_noisy_ego_narcissism_as_a_social/ The Lure of the Noisy Ego: Narcissism as a Social Trap, Part 1 https://www.sakkyndig.com/psykologi/artvit/campbell2008.pdf 806 Private fantasies of power and fame, spontaneous monologues about the self, interpersonal conversations that turn into opportunities to self-promote, attention seeking and showing off, materialism, and most of all treating relationships like games you can win are all opportunities for the narcissist to look and feel good and self-regulate at other people’s expense. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hon9nj/the_lure_of_the_noisy_ego_narcissism_as_a_social/ The Lure of the Noisy Ego: Narcissism as a Social Trap, Part 1 https://www.sakkyndig.com/psykologi/artvit/campbell2008.pdf 807 Narcissists seek out people high in status who also admire them. Even though this is who they will end up with whenever possible, they will still covertly try to destroy their status from sheer failure to control their disagreeableness. Amber Heard and Johnny Depp’s relationship and its ultimate fate is a good example of this. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hon9nj/the_lure_of_the_noisy_ego_narcissism_as_a_social/ The Lure of the Noisy Ego: Narcissism as a Social Trap, Part 1 https://www.sakkyndig.com/psykologi/artvit/campbell2008.pdf 808 The narcissistic personality disorder fits perfectly an addiction model, where they experience a rush after their worst personal abuses. They actually got a high on hurting the person that was unfortunate to be that close to them. They will do this blatantly to anyone; try to get a high off of them. There is even a habituation element. This is behind much of the sudden, random disturbances of a stable environment because they can’t stand the stability of it as people with addiction equate basic mental stability with the habituation state, which means the high needs to be higher. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hon9nj/the_lure_of_the_noisy_ego_narcissism_as_a_social/ The Lure of the Noisy Ego: Narcissism as a Social Trap, Part 1 https://www.sakkyndig.com/psykologi/artvit/campbell2008.pdf 809 Narcissists will cause discord at the expense of others just to get a high. They will destroy stable environments and cause drama or antisocial action just to get a high. Thus they have a moral disorder. Most people never are so vain to think their personal high is worth all that. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hon9nj/the_lure_of_the_noisy_ego_narcissism_as_a_social/ The Lure of the Noisy Ego: Narcissism as a Social Trap, Part 1 https://www.sakkyndig.com/psykologi/artvit/campbell2008.pdf 810 The high the narcissist gets is called narcissistic esteem. It is both an act of addiction and dominance, thus it is identifiable by a low agreeability feature where people can be addicted to disagreeing for the dominance high of rupturing the harmonic self-accordance of the group. It can be hard to believe when, where, and with whom they’ll suddenly decide to get their hit to get high in this way. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hon9nj/the_lure_of_the_noisy_ego_narcissism_as_a_social/ The Lure of the Noisy Ego: Narcissism as a Social Trap, Part 1 https://www.sakkyndig.com/psykologi/artvit/campbell2008.pdf 811 Altruism, harmonic self-accordance, community agreeability to itself, warmth, charity, and humility all take a quiet ego. Learning to quiet the ego, to listen well and with deference, and to genuinely show actions based on this quiet ego listening are something Christianity and Buddhism have in common. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hon9nj/the_lure_of_the_noisy_ego_narcissism_as_a_social/ The Lure of the Noisy Ego: Narcissism as a Social Trap, Part 1 https://www.sakkyndig.com/psykologi/artvit/campbell2008.pdf 812 From first glance, low narcissism may be seen as psychological dependence and weakness. However, with further research, the low narcissistic responses in psychological literature are not simply antitheticals of the high narcissistic responses, but rather more even-keeled, stability integrative, and ipsative responses. For instance, the non-narcissistic response of “I am apt to show off it I get the chance” is, “I enjoy and value my skills which were given to me by nature/God/religious deity xyz/etc., and will put them on display when socially appropriate but not when socially inappropriate, such as when someone else is deservedly the current focus.” This is a high self-esteem, low narcissism response. This opposite is not “I never show off and don’t have anything to offer” which is too low self-esteem to do any good against an increasing narcissism epidemic in the world. Such a person saying that would likely just be the beaten down victim of a narcissist, not a high self-esteem non-narcissist. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hon9nj/the_lure_of_the_noisy_ego_narcissism_as_a_social/ The Lure of the Noisy Ego: Narcissism as a Social Trap, Part 1 https://www.sakkyndig.com/psykologi/artvit/campbell2008.pdf 813 The author correctly identifies overfishing as an expression of temporal discounting as addiction. It is not sustainable, and the fisher becomes addicted to the feeling, relativistically, of beating other fishers and completely falls out of sync with the greater available, the full whole, and ends up with nothing in the end. Thus the danger of the narcissistic comparative logic, instead of comparing it to the objective standard, the available amount of fish. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hon9nj/the_lure_of_the_noisy_ego_narcissism_as_a_social/ The Lure of the Noisy Ego: Narcissism as a Social Trap, Part 1 https://www.sakkyndig.com/psykologi/artvit/campbell2008.pdf 814 Self-esteem is a positive thing to have. However, grandiose narcissists have a pattern where they make personal and immediately internalizable their causes of self-esteem and this mechanism causes an addiction based pattern because it is external (they do not possess the trait) codependence to something consistently internalized as a replacement for actually doing the work. This would perfectly describe someone engaged in envious sloth.Nikola Tesla’s plans and blueprints saw the same envious sloth based violence well before AI was around. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hotx78/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic responding to ego threat: When the status of the evaluator matters, Part 1 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 815 This may be a similar mechanism behind AI inferiorism; an attempt to internalize a product or work as something they can create by illegal and unwanted access to it so that they can feel vicariously what it’s like to have put in that kind of effort and earned that kind of knowledge or ability. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hotx78/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic responding to ego threat: When the status of the evaluator matters, Part 1 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 816 For instance, when illegal data stripping is happening on online word processors, people may be afraid to write or do art for fear someone deeply out of bounds will try to read into it, try to structure something into it for them financially, take it personally, or otherwise ruin it from envious narcissistic rage. Greed such as that has a profoundly destructive effect on the human species and its stores of creative energy. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hotx78/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic responding to ego threat: When the status of the evaluator matters, Part 1 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 817 A good example of addictive internalization may be someone who owns or runs a platform taking the use of their platform by certain individuals personally, structuring funds on it well before they have even a basic right to even think that is okay and immediately internalizing it in a way that shows an addiction-based, rather than sustainable, form of self-esteem. Basically, the speed of internalization shows an addiction predisposition. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hotx78/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic responding to ego threat: When the status of the evaluator matters, Part 1 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 818 Narcissists overreport their positive behaviors, inflate self-ratings of performance, overestimate their intelligence and physical attractiveness, make overly optimistic predictions for final course grades and feel unique and special. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hotx78/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic responding to ego threat: When the status of the evaluator matters, Part 1 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 819 Narcissists will attempt to avoid comparisons where they feel they will not win and avoid such contrasts or deflect their impact when they arise. For example, the bizarre phenomenon of claiming celebrities clearly on record in their early years without plastic surgery somehow have plastic surgery because the perceiver struggles to compare. By derogating them or claiming it is fraud in some way, they attempt to protect against narcissistic injury. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hotx78/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic responding to ego threat: When the status of the evaluator matters, Part 1 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 820 Narcissists engage in protectionism of their ego, creating potent and sensitive systems to protect them from unfavorable opinions, including picking and choosing who they are surrounded with so they come out looking better, driving down products of superior quality to make theirs look less inferior, and other extremely abusive acts that hold humanity back if not cause its destruction such as Covid-19 exploits found in scientific papers, network exploitation, and other unbelievably vicious and hard to understand exploitations of a global traumatic emergency. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hotx78/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic responding to ego threat: When the status of the evaluator matters, Part 1 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 821 “Negging” is called “source derogation” and happens when a comparatively unattractive other believes they cannot win in a fair game with an attractive other. "Source derogation" can happen in anything however, including justice, health, or even in Soviet Russia fact-checking in academia, but the mechanisms are essentially the same to negging. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hotx78/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic responding to ego threat: When the status of the evaluator matters, Part 1 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 822 A deliberate rigging and destruction of the capacity for justice occurs in almost every place and area the malicious envious source derogator who can't compete follows along with. This is the mark of an inferiorist. They deliberately take away the capacity for any given institution to create justice knowing that their comparitively inferior products can't compete and will be put out. Thus, the protectionism behind source derogation is an act of corruption by those incapable of justice actively rigging for an inferiorist protectionism. All of humanity loses; a short term victory for a long term loss, just like any addict. Thus they attempt to create an unjust “negging” situation to destroy their self-esteem. The formal term for this is “source derogation” and it is also behind using attractiveness measures as a form of social control. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hotx78/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic responding to ego threat: When the status of the evaluator matters, Part 1 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 823 For instance, those who vote for Trump may be “beautiful” and those who don’t “ugly” and the opinions shift simply by a vote as a truly inappropriate form of social control. This technique is seen on human traffickers well before any internet platform or President of the US came to fruition; lying to workers about their attractiveness to keep them from knowing their full value and also to control them and discourage noncompliant, independent behavior. This does severe, irreparable damage to the poles of truth necessary for even-keeled, mentally stable appraisal. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hotx78/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic responding to ego threat: When the status of the evaluator matters, Part 1 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 824 Narcissists can get excessively and unbelievably nasty when negging as “source derogation” doesn’t work; their envy can even take a homicidal pitch now that source derogation is no longer working. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hotx78/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic responding to ego threat: When the status of the evaluator matters, Part 1 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 825 If narcissists are not found as attractive as they believe themselves to be for these very features; willingness to distort the truth for political and social compliance, they may become engaged in extremely unbelievable and violent malice, often from the backend. They may cling to what wins they had in the past to avoid painful comparisons. The mark of the narcissist is the overreaction and hyperfixation for the stimulus. Finding out what the original narcissistic injury is can be comparatively so unimportant to a non-narcissist it is unbelievable the excessive, long-term reaction that resulted. That is the mark of someone with diagnosable narcissistic personality disorder. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hotx78/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic responding to ego threat: When the status of the evaluator matters, Part 1 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 826 Narcissists may try to avoid comparisons that won’t favor them and conspire for the comparison to not even occur, often from unbelievable levels of sheer vanity. They would rather abuse, lie to, and shame the individual they don’t believe they can win the comparison to that exists primarily only in the narcissist’s mind no matter who they are than learn to exist in harmonic self-accordance with other individuals, some of whom will cause survivable narcissistic injury that can be transformed into sustainable admiration. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hotx78/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic responding to ego threat: When the status of the evaluator matters, Part 1 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 827 Narcissism can be understood as addiction to ego and its concomitants (status, esteem and pride) where self-esteem is a positive trait when not internalized in inappropriate, unearned ways, such as internalizing external things or features not earned nor earnable. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hpidtv/the_lure_of_the_noisy_ego_narcissism_as_a_social/ The Lure of the Noisy Ego: Narcissism as a Social Trap Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 828 The behavior of a narcissist is the same reactive behavior in general of someone with an addiction and shows a time-delay trap, a sliding-reinforcer trap, and individual goods and collective bads trap. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hpidtv/the_lure_of_the_noisy_ego_narcissism_as_a_social/ The Lure of the Noisy Ego: Narcissism as a Social Trap Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 829 Narcissism is negative return/negative net impact for most people involved with the narcissist in the long-term. They start out one way, and after interacting with the narcissist, their life is markedly and visibly worse off than it was before them. A “King Midas” effect is therefore described by narcissists on themselves as well as apparent on the narcissist because of their narcissism, and is therefore is critical to avoid. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hpidtv/the_lure_of_the_noisy_ego_narcissism_as_a_social/ The Lure of the Noisy Ego: Narcissism as a Social Trap Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 830 The “social trap” view of narcissism as an addiction is tasked to find three things; (a) the benefits of narcissism to the self are largely immediate, (b) the costs of narcissism to the self are typically experienced in the long term © the outcome of narcissism for others is generally negative https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hpidtv/the_lure_of_the_noisy_ego_narcissism_as_a_social/ The Lure of the Noisy Ego: Narcissism as a Social Trap Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 831 Narcissists get a rush from experience of self-enhancement, such as being found/heard/seen associated with or in relation to an attractive or powerful other, or using abuse like triangulation to get a power high. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hpidtv/the_lure_of_the_noisy_ego_narcissism_as_a_social/ The Lure of the Noisy Ego: Narcissism as a Social Trap Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 832 Narcissists have the most rapacious effect on the commons. If an unbelievable predatory interest rate or unbelievably extortive data extraction is seen, it is almost guaranteed to be a narcissist, likely also in extreme narcissistic injury trying to pad their wound with other people’s money or content. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hpidtv/the_lure_of_the_noisy_ego_narcissism_as_a_social/ The Lure of the Noisy Ego: Narcissism as a Social Trap Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 833 Narcissists prefer to be liked, and to do so as friends or acquaintances, dating partners, potential leaders of a group, and as celebrities on television shows. This precludes their ability to do good work in jobs that can cause them to be particularly unliked, such as high-decision, high-authority jobs, and may cause them to retaliate inappropriately for not being liked, besmirching the name of any profession that requires good work, not to be liked. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hpidtv/the_lure_of_the_noisy_ego_narcissism_as_a_social/ The Lure of the Noisy Ego: Narcissism as a Social Trap Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 834 Narcissists tend to not bring the same energy to classes that have no potential for glory, aka, when they are self-motivated interests. Narcissists may therefore be less likely to study independently, read books independently for interest, or otherwise do things that can’t increase their social status but instead increase their personal knowledge. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hpidtv/the_lure_of_the_noisy_ego_narcissism_as_a_social/ The Lure of the Noisy Ego: Narcissism as a Social Trap Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 835 Narcissists present as exciting and charming in the beginning, but their impact quickly devolves into the negative over time. They may prefer strangers and performances for them because they can keep this illusory imagery up, when with people that do know long term they cannot. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hpidtv/the_lure_of_the_noisy_ego_narcissism_as_a_social/ The Lure of the Noisy Ego: Narcissism as a Social Trap Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 836 Narcissists are notorious for being completely bested by any basic criticism and falling into unbelievable short-term view narcissistic rages that discredit them and remove critical support. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hpidtv/the_lure_of_the_noisy_ego_narcissism_as_a_social/ The Lure of the Noisy Ego: Narcissism as a Social Trap Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 837 Narcissists are also bad leaders for this reason; they can’t resist any opportunity to rapidly extract resources, including white collar crime, and are the most likely to be corrupt leaders.Narcissists tend to have no motive other behind false behaviors than to see what resources they can drain, and often target the drainable resources well before they even have a right to even attempt this aka narcissists tend to be shameless gold diggers and can be of any gender. They may even completely ignore the victim in favor of the resources in the most obvious, embarrassing and unattractive way possible, such as looking into people’s accounts before reaching out to them in probably some of the most repulsive displays of golddigging fraudulence witnessable to date.It is best to just avoid them in full than to give them a chance to put on a less parasitic veneer while still in the end engaging in the same behavior. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hpidtv/the_lure_of_the_noisy_ego_narcissism_as_a_social/ The Lure of the Noisy Ego: Narcissism as a Social Trap Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 838 The quiet ego as the opposite of narcissism brings accurate self-perception, less irrational risk taking, a willingness to take responsibility for mistakes and correct them. Denial, avoidance, blameshifting, irresponsibility or erasure are features of narcissism not willing to accept the narcissistic injury admission of reality will cause them. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hpidtv/the_lure_of_the_noisy_ego_narcissism_as_a_social/ The Lure of the Noisy Ego: Narcissism as a Social Trap Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 839 Individuals with narcissism tend to have a shared delusion that they are a director, an actor on set, or that nothing is real and everything is a play when in fact they are not a director, there is no contract, there is no set, most of reality except in places run by the mentally ill are not deeply interfered with, and life is not a play–most things have genuinely uncertain outcomes and are not GMO’d/riddled with election interference.In places like Russia, this personality type is abundant enough that this is actually relatively true and most of politics is a facade and networks are essentially purchased as Putin attempts to GMO the outcomes of his country out of a deep fear and resentment of the natural process and a general sense of vulnerable Putin-protectionism. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hpidtv/the_lure_of_the_noisy_ego_narcissism_as_a_social/ The Lure of the Noisy Ego: Narcissism as a Social Trap Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 840 Self-transcendence is a negative predictor of narcissism; aka the more someone self-transcends, the less narcissistic one is. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hpidtv/the_lure_of_the_noisy_ego_narcissism_as_a_social/ The Lure of the Noisy Ego: Narcissism as a Social Trap Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 841 Narcissistic religious-ethnic fundamentalist conflations: Ethnic fragility and its intersections with religion are an ongoing problem as seen in the Chechen-Muslim Christian-Russian and Jewish-Israeli Palestinian-Muslim ethnic conflations. Though a large portion of an ethnicity may be of a certain religion, there are always open points in any ethnic group that do not deeply identify with what the religion they are ethnically conflated to be. Therefore they are not done due diligence by a less than keen analytical treatment. There is always far more room for peaceful freedom using these newly opened spaces than fundamentalist perspectives can bring where fundamentalism is in general classically associated with the terroristic features of organized religion due to its rigidity, inflexibility, and conflation features. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hpm1mr/mertons_dialogue_with_zen_pioneering_or_pass%C3%A9/ Merton’s Dialogue with Zen: Pioneering or Passé? Part 1 https://lonerganresource.com/media/pdf/articles/Dadosky_-Merton's_Dialogue_with_Zen.pdf 842 The transcendence of narcissism happens when genius is not equated with nationalism. For instance, Tesla would be disturbed to find the country that allowed him to starve to death in a hotel uses him as a boasting point of national pride, Dostoyevsky would be disturbed to find this out about the country that sent him to Siberia and faked shooting him out of sheer terroristic management that was passed on despite “revolution” vanities to the revolutionaries, and Hypatia would be disturbed to find that she is a bragging point for a country full of men that did nothing to help her and everything to harm her. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hpm1mr/mertons_dialogue_with_zen_pioneering_or_pass%C3%A9/ Merton’s Dialogue with Zen: Pioneering or Passé? Part 1 https://lonerganresource.com/media/pdf/articles/Dadosky-Merton's_Dialogue_with_Zen.pdf 843 Listening skill is critical and is shared by both the Merton and Zen traditions as ways of resolving narcissism. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hpm1mr/mertons_dialogue_with_zen_pioneering_or_pass%C3%A9/ Merton’s Dialogue with Zen: Pioneering or Passé? Part 1 https://lonerganresource.com/media/pdf/articles/Dadosky-Merton's_Dialogue_with_Zen.pdf The essential element is superiority begging and scapegoating are narcissistic and antithetical to the quiet ego that the individual, not the other through projective processing, is responsible for. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hpm1mr/mertons_dialogue_with_zen_pioneering_or_pass%C3%A9/ Merton’s Dialogue with Zen: Pioneering or Passé? Part 1 https://lonerganresource.com/media/pdf/articles/Dadosky-Merton's_Dialogue_with_Zen.pdf 844 Not letting the student fail must be done skillfully, and teachers can fail too; thus why content on supervision is essentially like not letting the teacher fail in not letting the student fail. Nobody has the right to do this other than mutually respectful autonomous agents agreeing on a supervisory normative guide. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hpm1mr/mertons_dialogue_with_zen_pioneering_or_pass%C3%A9/ Merton’s Dialogue with Zen: Pioneering or Passé? Part 1 https://lonerganresource.com/media/pdf/articles/Dadosky-Merton's_Dialogue_with_Zen.pdf 845 Math can be a force against narcissism, and narcissists really resent it for these reasons: Much of math is about listening carefully to what is being representationally “said” by the equation in a similar way that Zen is about listening carefully to what is being representationally/symbolically “said” by the brain and these two energies are mutually reinforcing thus why their friendship made a lot of sense. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hpm2i3/mertons_dialogue_with_zen_pioneering_or_pass%C3%A9/ Merton’s Dialogue with Zen: Pioneering or Passé? Part 2 https://lonerganresource.com/media/pdf/articles/Dadosky-Merton's_Dialogue_with_Zen.pdf 846 Failure to see value in other religions as they are can be a feature of narcissism: Personality differences again explain different resonances that cause statistical higher or lower gravitations of certain types of personalities to certain religions. This effect cannot be ignored, nor should personality feature triumphalism as personality feature narcissism be considered a valid answer. . https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hpm2i3/mertons_dialogue_with_zen_pioneering_or_pass%C3%A9/ Merton’s Dialogue with Zen: Pioneering or Passé? Part 2 https://lonerganresource.com/media/pdf/articles/Dadosky-Merton's_Dialogue_with_Zen.pdf 847 Narcissism’s root beyond envy is often considered to be pre-formed conception. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hpm2i3/mertons_dialogue_with_zen_pioneering_or_pass%C3%A9/ Merton’s Dialogue with Zen: Pioneering or Passé? Part 2 https://lonerganresource.com/media/pdf/articles/Dadosky-Merton's_Dialogue_with_Zen.pdf 848 Zen's answer to narcissism: Thus by being annihilative-integrative, it has a strong answer against narcissism which often achieves its inflations through fear of death, especially ego death as inability to survive, integrate, take what is meaningful and leave what is not from narcissistic injury which happens inevitably to anybody. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hpm2i3/mertons_dialogue_with_zen_pioneering_or_pass%C3%A9/ Merton’s Dialogue with Zen: Pioneering or Passé? Part 2 https://lonerganresource.com/media/pdf/articles/Dadosky-Merton's_Dialogue_with_Zen.pdf 849 Multi-polarity integration and diffusion back into a waveform possibility type ready for its annihilation or actualization as a true statement to be instantiated wherever needed as a way to diffuse rigidfying narcissism: Objectivity and non-objectivity as both simulataneously competing and mutually according multi-polarity in Zen is again “dying to self” and destroying the narcissism of the issue. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hpm2i3/mertons_dialogue_with_zen_pioneering_or_pass%C3%A9/ Merton’s Dialogue with Zen: Pioneering or Passé? Part 2 https://lonerganresource.com/media/pdf/articles/Dadosky-Merton's_Dialogue_with_Zen.pdf 850 Mature development from the one-way stage to the two-way dialogue: Dialogue is critical to harmonic self-accordance. Therefore, as the church matures, it shifts from a one-way appropriative mindset that is narcissistic to a mature, mutual reflection. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hpm2i3/mertons_dialogue_with_zen_pioneering_or_pass%C3%A9/ Merton’s Dialogue with Zen: Pioneering or Passé? Part 2 https://lonerganresource.com/media/pdf/articles/Dadosky-Merton's_Dialogue_with_Zen.pdf 851 Narcissism in the antithetical religious treatment of one religion towards another: Where religions are that antithetical, they are encouraged to go their separate ways and to do their own internal work. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hpm2i3/mertons_dialogue_with_zen_pioneering_or_pass%C3%A9/ Merton’s Dialogue with Zen: Pioneering or Passé? Part 2 https://lonerganresource.com/media/pdf/articles/Dadosky-Merton's_Dialogue_with_Zen.pdf 852 Narcissism as the immature psyche: The mature, integrative psyche can differentiate between complementary and contradictory differences. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hpm2i3/mertons_dialogue_with_zen_pioneering_or_pass%C3%A9/ Merton’s Dialogue with Zen: Pioneering or Passé? Part 2 https://lonerganresource.com/media/pdf/articles/Dadosky-Merton's_Dialogue_with_Zen.pdf 853 Inability to respect autonomous mutual agents and their respective soveirgnities as a feature of the immature narcissist: They are real differences, and not variations on a theme, but they are not threatened by them and can respect their mutual sovereignty or allow them to go their other way without a strong sovereignty-violating (which is the beginning of the root of actually illegal behavior where most countries and religions consider acts of moral disorder to be disharmonic and unacceptable) codependency response. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hpm2i3/mertons_dialogue_with_zen_pioneering_or_pass%C3%A9/ Merton’s Dialogue with Zen: Pioneering or Passé? Part 2 https://lonerganresource.com/media/pdf/articles/Dadosky-Merton's_Dialogue_with_Zen.pdf 854 Successful transcendence of the self as successful ability of a religion to allow individuals to be, integrate or leave: Suspicion of the other as a manifestation of intention to preserve difference shows the immature psyche unable to integrate compared to more mature psyches. The transcendence of self is a Christian feature and therefore mature Christianity prizes its valuation of diversity and genuinely allowing others to be, integrate, or leave as they are as a feature of successful Christian transcendence of the self as also an action against morally disordered narcissism. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hpm2i3/mertons_dialogue_with_zen_pioneering_or_pass%C3%A9/ Merton’s Dialogue with Zen: Pioneering or Passé? Part 2 https://lonerganresource.com/media/pdf/articles/Dadosky-Merton's_Dialogue_with_Zen.pdf 855 Narcissism as trying to insidiously force a religious belief set on a people: To destroy or silence something that doesn’t say exactly what one is trying to insidiously and/or violently script into a population is the sign of genuinely immature and fragile psyche, often also full of an unattractive hate where truth is usually signified by the fact it is attractive for its self-consistency, not hateful for its failure to successfully self-adhere. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hpm2i3/mertons_dialogue_with_zen_pioneering_or_pass%C3%A9/ Merton’s Dialogue with Zen: Pioneering or Passé? Part 2 https://lonerganresource.com/media/pdf/articles/Dadosky-Merton's_Dialogue_with_Zen.pdf 856 Narcissistic parasitic presence-absence as an active act of malice: The presence-absence in maliciously negligent and voyeuristic sabotaging stalking acts: Whether or not we are entitled to something in absence depends on how mutual the relation is; parasitism, stalking, or hate are inappropriate present-absences as well however and can be considered an active negligence if they are actively viewing the person and therefore generally considered active. They do it just out of a complete inability to self-control. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hpm2i3/mertons_dialogue_with_zen_pioneering_or_pass%C3%A9/ Merton’s Dialogue with Zen: Pioneering or Passé? Part 2 https://lonerganresource.com/media/pdf/articles/Dadosky-_Merton's_Dialogue_with_Zen.pdf 857 Comparative strategies are source derogation of an evaluator or a partner; “they don’t know me/they don’t know what they’re talking about/my partner is ugly/dumb/not to be listened to” etc., and non-comparative strategies “I can argue with that (peer-reviewed five-star, high caliber) test.” https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqa5x9/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 858 Narcissists engage in comparative self-protection to a greater degree than non-narcissists. This can be anything from the least pathological end of grooming habits to the most pathological end including the disturbing trend of having “self-esteem back up girlfriends and wives”. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqa5x9/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 859 Narcissists are more likely than non-narcissists to display self-serving bias, blaming others for failure when the result is bad or usurping credit when the result is good (aka, an abusive and narcissistic nation claiming a genius like Tesla, Dostoyevsky, or Hypatia while then taking so much credit from them they lived in poverty or were murdered.) https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqa5x9/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 860 Narcissists attempt to create dominance inequity to pad against possible rejection in comparative situations; aka, the more vulnerable they feel, the more extremes of dominance experiences for themselves they will demand. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqa5x9/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 861 Narcissists also source derogate whole traits, not just individual sources of less than flattering feedback or existential narcissistic injury (such as a taller, more attractive, or more fit person simply existing in a way that triggers their narcissistic injury). For instance, they may claim and show pride in traits they have but if they don’t have it they will say it’s not important and you can live without it. This is again a form of source derogation, because if they had the same trait they would uphold it as a standard of the exceptional. Their asymmetrical treatment belies narcissistic injury for not possessing that trait. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqa5x9/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 862 Narcissists use superiority to protect from narcissistic injury. For instance, individuals struggling with the content are more likely to derogate other learners as having Dunning-Kruger if they are not actively interfering with their learning as a way to distract from their own feelings of comprehensive inadequacy. People with strong comprehension tend to share strong comprehension, not beat down other students that are also struggling. Thus it is a dominance attempt to protect against narcissistic injury of being found to be less intelligent than one thinks one is, and should be viewed as a symptom of those who are struggling in some element of their comprehension because those who don’t don’t demonstrate this. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqa5x9/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 863 When there is a profound threat to the ego, the narcissist will demand the right to exercise excessive dominance performances to pad against narcissist injury. Buying thrones for themselves, fantasies of being a king/queen, demanding someone beg or supplicate are all signs of profound narcissistic injury usually from a high status other. For instance, narcissistic injury from a particularly valued source, threat to a particularly important aspect of the narcissistic self, etc. Then the narcissist will go beyond the normal more aggressive comparative technique to the non-comparative, absolute dominance attempt as an attempt to pad against serious narcissistic injury. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqa5x9/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 864 Society has a narcissistic enabling problem which is often kept in place by extremely narcissistic mechanisms behind closed doors. The result is often then presented to the public as high status. High status individuals tend to have less depressive experiences and more positive social experiences. This shows a disturbing reflection of the narcissistic proclivity now scaled across society where if you take the same exact person to a narcissist, the narcissist will like clockwork be nastiest to them when they are in low status and will be the most deferent and respectful when they are high status. The discrediting feature of this is when it is the exact same person with such disparate treatment, and to witness that renders the high status deference as almost jokelike and no longer worth it. Therefore, a disturbing narcissistic proclivity/enabling lurks at the heart of general society. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqa5x9/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 865 Narcissistic status tautological deference behavior: a disturbing critically low intelligence feature lurking at the heart of society that “it is high status because it is high status” and no actual intelligent appraisal or meaningful analysis of the differences, beyond “money takes money” or “I found this person high status, therefore I will keep them high status by treating them like a high status person” and no further intelligent analysis of the situation beyond that. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqa5x9/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 866 Narcissists value and emphasize social status more than non-narcissists. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqa5x9/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 867 Narcissists emphasize status themes in self-reports, maximizing their association and designation with high status features when self describing. They have more dominance based sex. They feel more entitled. They believe they are superior to others on status-related dominance, do not research the situation and therefore have no capacity for empathy which takes a nuanced, even-keeled analysis of the situation. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqa5x9/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 868 Narcissists are dominance addicts; they boast and seek public glory, pursue acquisitive and materialistic goals, look for opportunities to dominate others, and select dating partners that enhance their status (aka, they are unlikely to be with anyone broke and/or unattractive out of sheer connection). https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqa5x9/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 869 Narcissists mate poach (they only know the value of something when someone else has or values it; this is a feature of the hypergamist) and adopt a game-playing approach to love, including the disturbing trend of infidelity websites where they treat it like a game of getting away with it in a truly demotivating and disconcerting way. One is left asking the question why they even bother to have a spouse other than to have a glorified emotional torture victim, demonstrating the narcissistic casual sadism https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqa5x9/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 870 Narcissists predate and defraud the high status assigned to married individuals: Married individuals derive their high status from the implication that allegedly these people are capable of real fidelity, which takes true commitment, courage to sacrifice sure of the strength of one's decisions, personality strength and ability to love. They are respected for these features.If these features aren't actually present, the respect is essentially given in fraud as behind closed doors they haven't been able to sacrifice, commit and show the courage required of both, nor do they have the increasingly rare quality of being able to love (the pain or loss of the loved one precludes a moment of hedonism, aka, a basic ability to love). https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqa5x9/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 871 Narcissists have a canine-like status hierarchy structure: Narcissists have similar logics to the canine community and we can probably learn a lot about narcissism by studying these equivalencies; they are most deferent to the high status individuals just for their own sake on account of their high status without much intelligent individual appraisal of the situation; in fact, narcissists commonly use phrases like “it’s a dog eat dog world”, “bring them to heel”, showing they are aware that this structure resonates with and works for them. This is disturbing to non-narcissists, and fairly so, it can be a real liability in cases of fraud or rapacious, unsustainable effect on resources. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqa5x9/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 872 If a narcissist hears lots of compliments of someone being very rich, very intelligent or very beautiful in the area, they may seek them out and try to destroy or best them due to the identification with and importance of that feature to themselves. Again, this is a truly noxious quality that is morally disordered. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqa5x9/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 873 Narcissists do not show context sensitivity for self-protection: Narcissists will self-protect and will show little to no ability to stop self-protecting, for instance, if someone considers themselves to look like a Roman God without basic bodily functions, they may genuinely completely lose all their dignity trying to remain propped up in this delusion. On the contrary, non-narcissists may self-protect around high status others but will release their self-protection around low status others in order to spare them showing context sensitivity. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqa5x9/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 874 Narcissists value status more than anything. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqa5x9/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 875 “ Specifically, we expected that narcissists would engage in indiscriminate comparative protection, derogating both high- and low-status evaluators who insulted them.” https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqa5x9/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 876 Narcissists will source derogate low and high status evaluators when they are significantly narcissistically injured. They no longer care about status preservation of a high status individual when they are narcissistically injured. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqa5x9/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 877 Narcissists went the hardest with source derogation when they viewed the individual to be low status. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqa5x9/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 878 Similarly, treatment of children vs. adults can help to identify narcissists, where narcissists are capable of unbelievable cruelty towards children because they view them as low status where adults are considered comparatively higher status. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqa5x9/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 2 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 879 Narcissism and self esteem often get conflated. Narcissists tend to have high self-esteem, but show other features that render this pathological, such as undue rapid internalization of self esteem from external objects, zero sum thinking, and emphasis on social comparisons. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqhgvg/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 3 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 880 Reactance is seen on narcissists where when negatively evaluated they will immediately try to reestablish control or freedom by rebellious or dominance-seeking behavior. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqhgvg/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 3 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 881 Interestingly, narcissists experience reactance more readily than non-narcissists. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqhgvg/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 3 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 882 Some of a narcissist’s self-protection that doesn’t relent under any set of conditions can sometimes be better described as reactance; it isn’t about a deeper psychological motive of feeling there is something to protect, but rather a psychological motive of rebelling against conditions that feel like they are deeply limiting to the narcissist. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqhgvg/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 3 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 883 High status persons were considered higher in power, wealth, and prestige but not in social knowledge. Social knowledge refers to the ability to analyze and reason about social situations in relation to social rules which are essential to the development of social skills and social behavior. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqhgvg/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 3 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 884 Narcissists not only can show golddigging behavior, but also a form of political golddigging where they will seek out and solicit those they think have political influence and do so in a cloying, false or overdone way that clearly differs from how they treat those they don't view to have this power: It became clear that the narcissistic deference to status, especially wealth, was in the hope that the high status individual could influence people and their political ideas. AKA, narcissists showed casual lust for casual political interference and shifted their directional compasses, responsiveness, and prioritizing behavior on the narcissistic perception of this power (aka, the same behavior behind gold digging, but also for political influence.)Ironically, money was seen as the determining factor of this influence when in fact it is simply through buying influencers, as seen in literal influencer factories in China, that money has real political effect.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e7De0PisHU https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqhgvg/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 3 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 885 Narcissists with especially immature psyches showed such bad cognitive rigidity they didn't think anybody could disagree with them, for any reason (error, diversity of appraisal system, even just general incompetence): High reactance individuals didn’t think people could disagree with them, while low reactance individuals had come to their conclusion confidently and personally, and were aware that a diversity of appraisal systems of various degrees of accuracy, rigor and self-consistency would likely not map on the same way. Therefore, the high reactance narcissist showed a cognitive rigidity that also intersects with the immature psyche that views all difference as threat and cannot distinguish between complementary and contradictory. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqhgvg/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 3 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 886 Narcissists did better under insulting high wealth individuals, with a lot of narcissistic mechanisms at the ready to achieve resilience in the face of such a phenomenon: Narcissists did not seem to see a large detractive effect in self-esteem scores when insulted by high wealth evaluators. Non-narcissists however did. This is chalked up to both the narcissist's higher likelihood to self-inflate as an ego inflammation and reactance response, and a mechanism ready and able to do this pretty quickly, as opposed to the non-narcissist. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqhgvg/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 3 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 887 Non-narcissists tend to project sincerity onto narcissistic feedback, when increasingly a higher portion of high wealth individuals are more and more narcissistic and their feedback is less and less deeply representative to the source of its value, aka, in a high caliber relationship to the truth where representation deeply matches with what is represented.Narcissists do much better under this type of person than non-narcissist who tend to project their own sincerity and struggle to even consider the person may be manipulative or a liar until they are forced to undergo a maturing event that helps them to distinguish safe and unsafe places to project their own sincerity and ethical behavior, aka, teaching them how to identify broken and inaccurate appraisal systems that are non-competitive to their own because they are not highly functioning/highly self-consistent in their representations. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqhgvg/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 3 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 888 Narcissists identify with money from a primitive "money takes money" perspective, with no further intelligence analysis of the sources, nature or long term impact of the individual's money: Narcissists may identify with a high-wealth individual in the hopes of making money or being associated with money as opposed to a high prestige/high influence individual. As seen in the video from Chinese influence factories, this is ironic because often this money is simply handed to these high prestige/influencer types in more corrupt political processes which is what these narcissists tend to be after, showing China is well aware they are the true source of the shaping power, they simply use money to direct its course. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqhgvg/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 3 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 889 Narcissists embraced opportunities to claim superiority over an individual who caused them narcissistic injury if the opportunity presented itself. They did not show high self-control with these sort of temptations. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqhgvg/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 3 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 890 When an ego threat is too intense, narcissists literally mobilize to try for a more absolute domination attempt. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqhgvg/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 3 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 891 Cancel culture as extreme narcissistic injury towards a high status person: It is not uncommon in the narcissist population to see demands for begging, full removal, full cancelling, etc., which are all absolute forms of narcissistic injury of something that narcissistically injures them from someone considered high status. Extreme narcissists fetishize destroying people’s careers when they can’t compete; for instance, I have seen the same narcissist try to influence at least two of my jobs in the mathematical field adversely out of profound narcissistic rage, perhaps the worst I have ever seen. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqhgvg/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 3 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 892 The existence of certain others can narcissistically injure the narcissist, such as the existence of the female genius narcissistically injuring the misogynist on mere account of her existence, and she may be the subject of a "remedying" effect not limited to having or making a male child to be more like her or attempting to shift her data at the hands of the conceptually and cognitive-flexibility challenged narcissistic misogynist male to a male they're sexually attracted to without merit. These things are unbelievably narcissistic and vain, but they do occur often and disgustingly enough at the hands at the narcissistic misogynist and hold humanity back under the "no misogynists as male privileging narcissists" rule and its upstanding supportive research. It usually has a large homoerotic feature witnessable as well, showing an unfortunate amount of narcissists infiltrate and ruin these communities and infest it with misogyny from sheer male privileging narcissism. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqhgvg/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 3 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 893 Narcissists have hyper-dependence on social validation of their inflated self-concept. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqhgvg/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 3 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 894 "Sour grapes" distortions by incels post-rejection as a signature of incel behavior/thought: Incel behaviors, such as source derogating after rejection while pre-rejection their opinions were clearly quite different, were called “sour grapes” distortions and are strongly present in the rejected incel population, showing a high quantity of incels are narcissists. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqhgvg/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 3 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 895 Resilience to the abusive wealthy's insult as clearly present in China: In hypercapitalism such as China where the skies are clouded with an abuse-inflammation response level of hypermaterialist pollution as a symptom of something they really need to prove to others in their families/social environments (these cartoons come to mind when explaining their pollution problem https://www.istockphoto.com/illustrations/steam-ears ) , this resilience is probably critical. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqhgvg/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 3 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 896 Narcissists often are also identifiable by taking great pains to seem blaise or indifferent to ego threat when their covert and implicit behavior suggests just the opposite. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqhgvg/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 3 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 897 Narcissists may also emphasize their relative superiority when narcissistically injured, such as incels emphasizing wealth difference when rejected or trying to pull the conversation into normalized, unexamined wealth deference to minimize incel rejection experiences. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqhgvg/narcissistic_responding_to_ego_threat_when_the/ Narcissistic Responding to Ego Threat: When the Status of the Evaluator Matters, Part 3 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00590.x 898 Though the beat down victim may feel uncomfortable not saying the narcissistic parent is popular, possessed of an attractive personality and intelligent, in reality they may feel quite differently about their provably narcissistic parent who scores high on the narcissism scale and who demands them as an audience and doesn’t let them exist in their own right. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqz842/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 1 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 899 Transcendence of self as transcendence of narcissism: The traits of someone genuinely in transcendence of self with sustainable features for both object of perception and subject are (1) genuine self-esteem, (2) ability to tolerate negative affects without immediately trying to punish, silence, erase, or criminalize what can be moved through and processed prosocially to prevent unconscious repressive reemergences, (3) a developed capacity to empathize with others and (4) a developed ability to form a more realistic sense of self. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqz842/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 1 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 900 Object relations and defense mechanisms are behind much of this broken, undue internalization of the external object; closeted narcissists still have the object relations issue of problems with object constancy (an object you can’t see has not suddenly stopped existing), and this is often because the object they are internalizing for their self-esteem is not themselves, but someone else. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqz842/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 1 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 901 Narcissists should be precluded from giving therapy due to inability to generate even basic levels of positive regard and its skewing affect as well as inability to control projection and countertransference, results in genuinely and deeply inaccurate projections of their own limits and pathologies: Narcissistic transference is way more riddled with object constancy issues, often to a pathological and noxious effect. Core features of this therapy include therapeutic neutrality (narcissists are precluded from giving this therapy or providing their allegedly professional opinion as they continually have to be constantly and exhaustively corrected in their truly dilapidated positive regard for the patient; their opinions unfortunately in this space do not have equal merit on this feature due to what may, in less destructive contexts, be considered a real disability especially of empathy), and analysis of the transference with core features https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqz842/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 1 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 902 The critical importance of not having narcissistic diagnostic when it comes to universal mood neurochemical effects vs. personality disorders: Depression is a stand alone neurochemical imbalance that can largely just be due to the way someone’s body is designed as genetic features, such as historically low sunlight or iron where a human genetically evolved in a mutual feedback loop with the limitations and abundances of their environment. However, depression can also be a comorbid symptom of a narcissistic personality disorder, in the same way anxiety is a feature of OCD but people may have GAD without showing any further features of OCD. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqz842/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 1 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 903 Narcissists normalize hypervigilance where competence should be (information should be collected through hypervigilance if under threat, but the key is to solve the problem sustainably, not grow more and more hypervigilant) : Normalizing hypervigilance can also be a sign and feature of the closeted narcissist. Hypervigilance is a sign of failure to manage a situation and is not a sustainable state. It shows prosocial failure and general trust so low it can rupture the entire social nature of society. It will likely have reproductive issues as well due to the deeply atrophied trust and normalized, instead of treated, antisociality. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqz842/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 1 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 904 Narcissists are abusive and even murderous of celebrities and can be identified by this feature, for instance Korea has an ongoing celebrity murder problem and probably therefore might have statistically higher rates of narcissism: Admiration, supporting celebrities and supporting people one admires do not come naturally to the closeted narcissist whose atrophied empathy also shows an atrophied mutual support/reciprocity mechanism that nets out in negative return for the unfortunate object of their perception, as opposed to a healthy audience, where this attention will net in a positive return. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqz842/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 1 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 905 Narcissists have both a King Midas negative return effect, as well as a crabs in a bucket effect. They bring people down to their level out of narcissistic rage instead of doing what it takes to rise up to theirs: They are probably the first candidates for dragging someone else down to their level and their antisocial action may be a product of just that act; an attempt to make someone successful fail like them instead of rising to the challenge and succeeding together. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqz842/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 1 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 906 Largely unconscious feelings of unachieved grandiosity are often seen in the closeted narcissist https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqz842/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 1 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 907 Grandiose expressions of malignant narcissists are never meant for mutual, public benefit; they are exclusionary and sneeringly so. In contrast, the non-narcissistic public finds the public offering is more than enough, and the prosociality of the Belgium people is clearly of such an intelligence level to agree, where the Belgium people have come into relationship with it with a packed mutual perception of phones taking pictures of lights and lights powered by the same electric grid that powers the phones. It is in a miraculous state of genuine mutual support. It is heartening and healing to witness and functional, live environmental-sociological-archietectural feedback loop that live and that healthy in the heart of a country on Christmas. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH-UqUT1vCA) https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqz842/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 1 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 908 Object constancy issues where narcissists have a genuine “out of sight, out of mind” feature can be described by separation and individuation. They have an infantile feature to their development where out of sight means out of mind. When infants are very young, they fail to separate between the parental face and themselves, and this is critical as they are building a bank of critical emotional responses and the parental face is supposed to be live and have positive affects for a bank of positively affective states to be internalized over the long term. Essentially during this time, the parent is the mind until a large enough bank of facial recognition is established. If there's nothing to see, there's nothing to create mind. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqz8vh/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 2 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 909 Lack of analytical rigor in unproven theoretical psychoanalytical theories can cause a destructive, regressive effect with inappropriately applied: For instance, less rigorous psychoanalysis may initially enable this failure to individuate drawing equivalencies between things not entirely relevant to unbacked Freudian and other psychoanalytic mere theories. This may even create the failure to individuate from the parental system as a symbolic system where it didn’t previously exist and the person have individuated sufficiently, only to reject it. That is damaging and incompetent, especially when they failed to simply see and further support where individuation had already occurred. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqz8vh/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 2 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 910 Issues in the separation/individuation feature can be targeted at four phases of initial development; differentiation, practicing, rapprochement, on-the-way-to-object-constancy. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqz8vh/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 2 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 911 Narcissism is only appropriate in earlier life as it mirrors the development phases: Healthy narcissism happens during early stages where children seeing great success want to do and be a lot from a hunger for success that might be more than they can handle. This is great it just needs to be managed to something reasonable for them to succeed at without exhausting themselves. Successful development will have periods of healthy narcissism, where after achieving some degree of success, healthy children will want a lot and to do a lot. Immediately shooting it down is incompetent and leads to the child being afraid of any feeling of “glory” as due, relatively short-term pride at a successful development milestone absolutely worthy of real enthusiasm and celebration. This will lead to a stunted development and a need for perfect mirroring because any difference at all feels untrustworthy due the individual being in higher credit with themselves than with the parent due the parent’s abusiveness. That is a normal and healthy response to an abusive parent; to trust oneself more than them after long term and particularly bad abuse.

https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqz8vh/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 2 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 912 The child may be so afraid of grandiosity punishment that they will mistake basic support for grandiosity and mirroring the grandiose self. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqz8vh/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 2 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 913 Ethnic fragility as an expression of narcissistic injury: The narcissistic parent may even start racializing or claiming they are not their child at the slightest differentiation due to a variation on the theme of ethnic fragility in the deeply narcissistic parent who struggles with the difference between complementary and contradictory differences. This can even lead to a narcissistic rage based physical, sexual, emotional and psychological abuse of the child if they become sufficiently successfully differentiated, for instance a completely white child being called Chinese when they start liking math from sheer racism. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hqz8vh/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 2 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 914 Closet narcissists due to being developmentally arrested view the mother as an extension of the self, and not a being unto herself. Though they acknowledge they are bodily separate, they may show all the signs that they believe they are “fused” or the same person/one-minded. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrp5u5/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 3 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 915 The danger of the analytically unskilled narcissist passing judgment and conflating two types of depression: Abandonment depression, not to be conflated with neurochemical depression that exist in the body without any outside personality disorder and is more prevalent in certain body types rather than others, is when the child is fused to the mother but feels abandoned when they fail to be what the mother wants.This may also be explained by a narcissist mother who beats down and abuses their child when they aren’t exactly like her or differ from her in a direction she can’t follow or claim as really and actually to do with her, as she views her child as only existing to glorify herself and to point to herself as “the real source” or “the original”. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrp5u5/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 3 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 916 Determining non-narcissistic or narcissistic in separate parental demands for grandiosity: The closeted narcissist will remember feelings of grandiosity, the narcissistic parent will remember their child being of a satisfying grandiose expression, and the non-narcissistic child will not be referring to a grandiose past and when forced to look back upon a capitulation attempt toward the narcissistic parent, will feel some degree of embarrassment and will likely attempt to have nothing more to do with the grandiose narcissists’ fulfilled expectations. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrp5u5/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 3 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 917 Both narcissistic parent and narcissistic child resent each other but neither has the lack of narcissism to accept their own narcissism and take internal responsibility for it, an act that would actually end the cycle: The closet narcissist may fall into fusion to prevent the feelings of abandonment from an outside narcissistic injury that threatens to evaluate the evaluation that depresses them. The narcissistic parent may actively encourage this narcissistic injury by triangulating them to destroy their self-esteem. This is the mark of a narcissist, but since both are narcissistic even though they may both think they are the true victim or exempt, neither will be able to break the fusion from a vanity-charged denial of their own narcissism. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrp5u5/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 3 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 918 Revelation of the ghosting phenomenon when it is recontextualized through the lens of the ghoster's narcissism: Non-narcissistic energy will break the fusion, and when the non-narcissistic energy is introduced, narcissists will suddenly disappear like clockwork because they fundamentally struggle to both respect, comprehend and engage in such things therefore can be identified by this otherwise unexplainable ghosting behavior that becomes explainable when viewed through the lens of narcissism; these include acts that require empathy, intimacy, vulnerability, discussing or understanding feelings. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrp5u5/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 3 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 919 The closet narcissist will respond with a) self-activation (thinking on the self, and this is usually clearly with the intent to cause a feedback loop of skewed incoming evaluation and then skewed positive self-description), b) abandonment depression and c) defenses (see: narcissistic defenses). https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrp5u5/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 3 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 920 Expected symptoms of differentiation attempts by the closet narcissist: Shifting to self-activation as opposed to catering to the needs of the idealized object, usually the parent especially if the parent is narcissistic and attention-seeking, can cause a great deal of anger as they push up against the low self-esteem desire to collapse back into being a self-enhancement of the idealized object. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrp5u5/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 3 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 921 Devaluation of self, increased idealization of object, or narcissistic type self-harm are all ways the narcissist tries to cope with the object of desired fusion not fusing to their narcissistic entitlement's demand: Increasing cognitive dissonance of acting in this way toward the idealized object causes them to defend against these feelings as unacceptable, including devaluation of the self as compensation for feelings of shame for feeling that negatively about them, idealization of the object as compensation for feelings of shame for feeling that negatively about them, or self-destructive behaviors as a way to express what they want to do to them but are too prosocial to do so. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrp5u5/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 3 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 922 Narcissists find moral covers for crimes they want to commit so they are ego syntonic when in the end they just want to commit a crime: Early Italian clergy have had periods of humiliating and taking away signals of wealth in a sexually charged decadence-rage that was not about decadence but the sexual charge of it. Decadence was a convenient means to the sexual ends to provide a moral cover for a sexual act to fuel in a righteous energy used for sexual violence, and was essentially just the mechanism of the perpetrator who engages in sexual battery. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrp5u5/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 3 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 923 Narcissist's pathological victim shaming is tied to a profound lust, lasciviousness and desire where they hope to preserve the predatory path in to actualizing the crime by keeping people's eyes on it and blaming the victim instead. Non-narcissists do not fall for that and see it for exactly what it is: There are a lot of times I have to course correct a tendency to go straight to blaming the victim in a way that seems riddled with some strange kind of lust for victim shaming that seems a little too narcissistic to be doing this in its own right. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrp5u5/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 3 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 924 The therapeutic space becomes more and more compromised by compulsive people out of control of their body and brain, especially by countries with high narcissism problems that don't respect and pathologize mental health (see poor treatment and perspective of mental health in Korea, China, and other high-hacking states; ironically South Korea is notorious for a porn addiction problem): In the world of normalized hacking, illegal public or private surveillance (such as the Google glasses abuse of the public space discussed yesterday) and AI inferiorism, the possibility of such treatment becomes tragically rarer and rarer. Initial caution, sobriety, carefulness and a slow initial pace is required. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrp5u5/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 3 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 925 Plagarism was a way to resolve profound feelings of envy and inferiority: The use of quoting, even when fraudulent, was seen as a way to both relieve profound feelings of envy and to now make them to do with the self by undue internalization. Thus this behavior was an unsustainable self-inflation. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrp5u5/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 3 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 926 Narcissists have to be greatly supported to get high performance in math or analysis and then often internalize success all too soon, try to become independent too soon from the symptoms of their narcissism thinking they have it now when they don’t, and then engage in a massive act of failure again based in their narcissism and failure to learn due to their excessive ego. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrp5u5/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 3 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 927 A desire to punish the object of envy, prematurely internalize them, and use them for self-enhancement all at the same time is seen in the closeted narcissist. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrp5u5/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 3 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 928 Without context, narcissistic mate poaching is also seen where they don’t want something unless other people want it and don’t know how to appraise for themselves. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrp5u5/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 3 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 929 Then, compensatory attempts to be God are seen as an expression of narcissistic injury when the way out of envy doesn’t seem to be presented and it has turned malicious as a way to rail against a highly reactance-inspiring deep envy in the narcissist who believes they are the best candidate to possess what they haven’t worked for nor put down their ego long enough to possess (aka, unearned). https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrp5u5/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 3 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 930 Unnecessary revolution that in the end didn't change anything such as terrorist management equivalents in Stalinism found just as bad and as often on tsarist terrorist management as a failure to put down the ego, in contrast to absolutely necessary revolution with real change implementable and in mind: The use of revolution in this case can be the expression of the failure to put down the ego as the failure to put down the gun when it isn’t strictly necessary, aka, in vanity-motivated acts of malicious envy. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrp5u5/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 3 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 931 Narcissists may struggle to buckle down and research and learn when they hit their intelligence ceiling, even if it is higher than others, and instead just discard the information. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrp5u5/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 3 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 932 Therefore narcissism and intelligence should not be conflated because those with and without narcissism have two very clearly separate responses; one internalizes the failure to comprehend as “retarded” (narcissistic response) and discards due to the narcissistic injury of feeling “retarded”, and the other (the non-narcissists) accepts that the distressing feeling of being overwhelmed, admits they will need more competent support during this time while they still don’t have the required comprehension, seeks it out respectfully and with their ego as fully put away as possible, segments and reorganizes the information in ways most conducive to their own comprehension (takes notes, breaks it apart, does project management on large and overwhelming bodies of information), checks for understanding, builds a bank of understanding, and completes the comprehension ultimately having the stronger strategy than the narcissist who just discards it due to profound narcissistic injury of feeling their intelligence ceiling, which anyone can raise with the right patience, right support, right diligence, right lack of ego and right strategy. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrp5u5/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 3 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 933 Non-narcissistic fortitude and high caliber/character in the face of ambiguity: The research by Aquinas on evil leading to envy as the root cause when Aquinas is notorious for his excellent and in depth analysis for his time is a good example of a non-narcissist struggle and later non-narcissists picking up the slack and achieving the answer over time where before it had bested even what was among the best during his time. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrp5u5/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 3 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 934 Narcissism and intellectual disability, aka intellectual disability is only a problem when it is narcissistic and normalizes disability creating more disability that wouldn't have been disabled if they weren't narcissistic about their disability: Intellectual disability is only a problem when it interferes with the learning of others, and has a profound de-intelligencing effect on other people by holding them back due to their own limitations such as when it disables other people due the sheer disability of the situation. Otherwise it isn’t a problem. Unfortunately this symptom is more prevalent than one might like to think however, with a lot of sexual abuse cases being attributable to someone at that level or lower in intelligence as an unfortunate statistical fact. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrp5u5/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 3 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 935 Signs of internalizing “whole personality”, relatively hateful derogations by the actual parent (“you piece of shit”, “you little asshole”, “the only thing you deserve is to kiss my ass” etc.) is seen in the parent of the closeted narcissist. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrp5u5/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 3 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 936 The closeted narcissist takes anything good found in the world of a certain gender and immediately links it to their fusion parental objects due to the features of an underdeveloped psyche. This is pathological and not okay and further developmental work with a correctly paid, respected, willful and voluntary professional is required nor are these excuses for illegal activity that is already completed. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrp5u5/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 3 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 937 Mother-begging as defense in the violent narcissist's defense: Conflation of a victim with a problematic mother is not at all a valid reason for committing r*pe, murder, abduction, stalking or hyperfixation. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrp5u5/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 3 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 938 Narcissists must take responsibility for remedying their own analytical atrophy: Both conflations and failures to take responsibility for their analytical atrophy are completely and profoundly unacceptable in grown adults, and they are responsible for gaining these skills immediately so they do not make these conflations again even if and where they are clear symptoms of their narcissistic personality disorder and may be considered in some contexts therefore actual intellectual disability especially when it comes to critical analytical absolute facts of separate persons such as that. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrp5u5/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 3 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 939 Long-time internet stalking well before meeting and consistent lying is seen in the closet narcissist. Extremely disturbing and entirely unsafe for the victim. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrp5u5/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 3 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 940 Relative empathy leads to a narcissistic empath effect. Your empathy is measured by your scores on emotional intelligence and empathy metrics, it is not measured by comparative sensitivity. This is ironically the narcissistic comparative logic.: More empathy than normal for a narcissistic family can convince one that they are an empath, when in fact object measures like emotional intelligence and empathy scores may reveal this is just a relativity effect and that they are still capable of profound damage due to low empathy outside of their family, they just have a comparatively lower impact in their family. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrt88n/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 4 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 941 Grandiosity attacks in narcissists: Inflammatory grandiose responses to compensate for profound feelings of following inferiority are seen, like a “grandiosity attack” at the re-apprehension of a pervasive feeling of inferiority. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrt88n/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 4 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 942 Narcissists tend to have a noxious social immaturity it can be grating to deal with in the long term: As usual, people describe a social immaturity they weren’t expecting that had a particularly noxious effect. The same is often described on serial killers, where people make cults around them only to find out the other person has in person a noxious self-congratulatory, petty social immaturity that is grating, unbelievable, embarrassing and hard for anyone to deal with. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrt88n/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 4 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 943 Narcissistic fear of failure and hyperfixation: Narcissistic vulnerability to fear of failure is seen and a working face-of-failure strategy/response is not apparent, with the possibility of opening up any sort of such strategy/response immediately discarded or rejected. Ongoing fixation is directly a product of the fear of failure or not getting it. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrt88n/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 4 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 944 Narcissists may become depressed because they have failed to beat someone down from an inferiority position. That is not acceptable and needs therapy immediately as it will result in extra aggressive retributive attempts to beat down people that win on their merit if at any point they think they can suddenly win: The depression therefore has a large amount of features that are of the closeted narcissistic type where they seek people to idealize, have a masochistic woundedness/betrayal feature that they use to engage in narcissistic injury based compulsive retaliatory features, and also a high envy predisposition. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrt88n/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 4 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 945 Closet Narcissism may be misdiagnosed as borderline: Closet narcissism is often misdiagnosed as borderline personality disorder and can be differentiated by the closet narcissist being hyperfocused on ongoing performances of perfection and all things appearing perfect, while the borderline is more likely to seek out feelings of being loved and feelings of stability often due to extremely traumatic childhoods where the lack of these two intersected (the parent not loving their children enough to stop drinking and causing massively destabilizing repeat abuse events). https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrt88n/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 4 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 946 Intense fusion needs in the closeted narcissist: Intense fusion needs are present, and they show no real ability to come off of them, being deeply threatened by any analytical insistence of difference for the sake of the protection of both the victim as well as the individual to the consequences of embarrassing symbolic mislocations that trigger “fear of failure” narcissistic injury. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrt88n/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 4 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 947 Excessive, disturbing levels of surveillance should be considered the narcissistic fusion attempt; to create the circumstances that feel like closeness so they can internalize it for themselves and prop up their own self-esteem by the fake and unwanted proximity/intimacy. For instance, these fusion attempts often come through the premise of police work, but it becomes very clear very quickly that it has a lot more mentally disturbed intimacy/closeness attempts than any appropriate or professional police work would ever have. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrt88n/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 4 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 948 Narcissists may try to create illegal surveillance narratives to achieve a feeling of intimacy that is unwanted and not mutual out of sheer narcissistic entitlement belying just why the relationship patterns are broken (no mutual respect, no skill with the implicit features of successful relationships. Interestingly, there have been attempts to create courses to develop relationship skills, I think these are a phenomenal opportunity for just such people who may literally need it spelled out): Intimacy must be entered into willfully, voluntarily, and knowledgeably, not to pity-satisfy someone who can’t engage in the required relational boundaries of a successful relationship like communication, payment, vulnerability, and knowledgeable, consensual information about who the person is and whether they are mentally stable and safe enough to even be remotely exposed to (in this case they are not in anyway and any police who let this happened were in a state of profound gross incompetence). https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrt88n/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 4 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 949 Jealousy of the mother and positive traits given to her may cause the closet narcissist to put themselves in positions where they can feel like her or even selected over her in someone they project her mate on: Masochistic fantasies as an echo of the ongoing parental domination behavior is seen. It feels familiar and is also trying to demand processing somatically the psychologically when and where it doesn’t really make sense (trying to shift the intelligence down to the body where the brain has failed). https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrt88n/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 4 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 950 Pedophilic tendencies at any attempt to blame the child as overall proclivity at any attempt to blame the victim where excessive need to blame the victim is indicative of ego syntonic attempts to actualize lust, therefore such an act of repeatedly trying to blame a child may be evidence of pedophilia: No abuse of a child is called for, nor is this narrative permissive of any sort of sexual violence. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrt88n/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 4 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 951 It takes personality strength to be able to handle grandiosity, in the same way it takes personality strength to be able to handle celebrity. Narcissists will fail to support and destroy it from envy and narcissistic age: For example, Europe seems able to handle its grandiosity, still able to act stable and in union with each other while being oftentimes completely surrounded by grandiose architecture, where other countries seem to struggle entirely, immediately pornifying, sexualizing and having other unconscious envious expressions meant to humiliate due to ongoing inferiority feelings towards the grandiose. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrt88n/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 4 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 952 Non-narcissistic responses to the adult abuse of a child: The mature, adult response is to take responsibility for what the adult did without blaming a child at any point with the exception of critical neurological abnormalities in which case they need to see a child psychiatrist capable of positive regard without any sort of untreated, uncontrolled conflating mental illnesses of their own. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrt88n/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 4 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 953 Narcissists may pass on abuse at their workplace to their child from sheer psychological laze and entitlement to not being the victim but the perpetrator: A bizarre effort-humiliation is seen. The hypothesis is that the mother is passing down similar experiences in her own life onto the child. If this hypothesis is correct, she is responsible for stopping the flow of this abuse from affecting the mental development of her child by passing it down due to more or less psychological laze. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrt88n/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 4 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 954 Incels tend to blame their sometimes lethal sexual reactance to not getting the sex/attention they feel entitled to on their mother. This is inappropriate. Their being an incel is a choice as a grown adult: Later humiliation and rejection attempts for incel behavior and reactance violence based on not getting what he wants sexually and relationally and blaming it on his mother (she is not responsible for that at all; that is entirely on him now as an adult) show he has conflated people who do not want his attention with his mother, this is entirely inappropriate and another symptom of a broken analytical/appraisal system. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrt88n/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 4 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 955 Narcissists smell vulnerability like a shark smells blood. Children at high risk of narcissism even beginning to express narcissism at an early age due to extremely narcissistic homes full of expressed narcissists are most likely to bully children who seem vulnerable due to child abuse: When a child acts abnormally due to abnormal development features, they are often the first to be bullied. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrt88n/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 4 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 956 Narcissists smell vulnerability like a shark smells blood. Children at high risk of narcissism even beginning to express narcissism at an early age due to extremely narcissistic homes full of expressed narcissists are most likely to bully children who seem vulnerable due to child abuse: When a child acts abnormally due to abnormal development features, they are often the first to be bullied. However, these bullied individuals when they are adults are responsible for their behavior and any criminal activity and it is not the fault of children raised in narcissistic homes who upon reaching adulthood are now also responsible for lowering their narcissism levels. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrt88n/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 4 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 957 Like all narcissists, they believe they deserve only the most grandiose and seek it out and there show a real self that they otherwise hide due to dog-eat-dog narcissistic superiority logic. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrt8zk/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 5 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 958 Narcissists tend to think their trauma is rare, when in most cases it is actually pretty common: Most of their issues are pretty common yet they feel humiliated by them; this is a common narcissistic issue. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrt8zk/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 5 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 959 Hoping for grandiosity and superiority alone will never result in works of genius, narcissists would have to transition to self-connection and would have to start to like to do quality work for its own sake, not just for the glory of it and it being seen as attached to them as narcissistic self-enhancement (the motive behind AI inferiorism, to be attached to the "glory" final product of it, without actually having any of the originating capacity): Any genius they do actually have must be facilitated through decreasing the grandiosity need and increasing the self-connection feature via a competent, correctly paid and correctly respected professional who he is responsible for remaining in stable direct relation with and not causing them harm or breaking the stability. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrt8zk/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 5 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 960 Paternal and maternal type fusing in the closeted narcissist: Fusion also appears to occur through identifying with the mother in masochism. Attempting to feel the mother’s experience for himself is a repeated theme. They only fuse with sufficiently grandiose male figures due to ongoing narcissism issues and a hope to internalize the grandiosity unduly or prematurely. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrt8zk/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 5 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 961 Premature internalization of self-enhancement results in profound narcissistic injury: When this proved to be premature, uncalled for, and undue, he experienced worthlessness, shame, fragmentation and failure and likely went into psychotic levels of extreme depressive narcissistic injury comprised of aggressive re-fusion attempts to reestablish the feeling that the internalization was due and mature when it was not to reprop up his ego. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrt8zk/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 5 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 962 Rivalrous mimicry of the mother, sister, or other female figure: Real empathy, not performative and cloying false performances of empathy in rivalrous mimicry of the mother, takes real vulnerability and unfortunately some real degree of dignity really to lose (the amount of times I have just started crying around someone really going through something is just embarrassing). https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrt8zk/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 5 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 963 Broken features of narcissistic appraisal and overall mislocation of the psychological symbolic map as a strangely common feature of the narcissist worthy of further neurological study: They also didn’t show competent appraisal in who would and wouldn’t humiliate them, and then tried to control what they suspected by entering into masochistic surrender when that was otherwise forced upon them and doing what one suspects will happen anyway is an attempt to control the outcome, not necessarily what one wants to be done. This is ongoing evidence of his grandiosity affecting his poor appraisal system and mislocating repeatedly, which I argue is signs of a schizophrenic predisposition that he projects repeatedly on others. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrt8zk/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 5 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 964 Narcissists are both liable to flatter and to believe flattery is factual (liabilities when it comes to envy, easily bought off with the right flattery): Low integrity capitulation was seen as is characteristic of the narcissist seeking grandiosity wherever it may be found. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrt8zk/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 5 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 965 Excessive flattery was used by the narcissist as an attempt to fuse with a grandiose object. Normal flattery was used to clear the path: Capitulation to superiority was used as a technique of fusion allowance when the individual was grandiose enough, otherwise their inability to stop the fusion was used when they didn’t view the person as grandiose enough. That is markedly narcissistic in its dog-eat-dog feature. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrt8zk/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 5 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 966 Public humiliation is the attempt by the narcissistic family to narcissistically keep their family in line. It is not something non-narcissists do and can essentially be a public admission of narcissism when it is jarring, disturbing and mismatched when applied to a non-narcissist. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrt8zk/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 5 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 967 Narcissism tends to be a self-reinforcing broken family logic, and they all tend to have poor appraisal systems/poor analytical skill where they can't accurately determine the difference between objects of the external world and objects within the family, aka they are prone to acts of narcissistic psychological laze that keeps them noxious when evaluated by the external world: I have somehow had the relative misfortune of being exposed to a lot of such families who have completely failed to take responsibility for their analytical incapacity in correctly separating one person from another using an associative mapping as opposed to a deductive mapping for their psychological space that may be similar to a spatial-deductive issue. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrt8zk/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 5 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 968 Many narcissists post-crime admit to logical brokenness/not enough support of their logic system that cause these profoundly inaccurate conflations between family objects and simply similar external objects where full transference of the similar object's traits is grossly incompetent and inaccurate: Extreme needs for the actualization of narcissistic self-enhancement and admission of logical brokenness is clearly seen as a feature in what can be a criminal motive. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrt8zk/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 5 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 969 Hacking/cyberterrorism may be fundamentally motivated by inappropriate, unwanted fusion attempts also observable in their relational/sexual activity and the person desiring fusion without knowledge or consent is responsible for putting a stop to it immediately: Ongoing issues with the excesses of fusion for an adult being interrupted was an ongoing motive for antisocial action. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrt8zk/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 5 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 970 Those who treat narcissists have a duty to hold boundaries about the value of the work they do with them, including permanently locking them off to find someone else to treat them at certain levels of profound disrespect. This is to preserve the bar of relational lowliness at a sustainably high level, when a narcissist is incompetent with this sort of thing and will drive it down as low as they can due to sheer inability to control their reactance, similar to compulsion and inability to control the body and the brain issues on pedophiles where unfortunately the two bodies have some non-ignorable intersection: Those who have been disrespected are completely and permanently locked off to individuals such as this only in the exception of someone else publishing freely for the public good which is deserving in its own right and not for the patient’s. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrt8zk/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 5 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 971 Narcissists express saying their true feelings is difficult for them due to narcissism issues, but ironically non-narcissists and narcissists have this in common. Relational intimacy must be earned and is a delicate balance for anyone to achieve. However, non-narcissists will still take the risk due to a generally stronger ability to do what it takes to keep a healthy, mutually acknowledged relationship. This ability to take the emotional risk prevents relational parasitism where such relationships must be ended as soon as possible for the health of the relational "host". https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrt8zk/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 5 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 972 There is not much on the functional treatment of narcissists, and stuckness will occur, but it is critical to appreciate and publish any successful treatment of this disorder in the increasingly excessive and concerning prevalence of narcissism and envy: Stuckness happens in therapists, especially when there aren’t a lot of specialists in narcissism, especially closet narcissism, and there’s a lot to learn about the specific neurology of it. It's not a reason to beat oneself up for not putting it down quite right, it's just evidence that there is little to no big picture positive regard preserving, high analytical skill guidance on this yet which is all the reason why research is critical. This also highlights the necessity of spelling it out analytically, rigorously, and with citation to other people's previous work. To not do so is narcissistic and precludes that individual from the ability to practice competent care. That said, this subreddit is for the victim and I am not paid to treat narcissists and will not even consider doing such research without ample payment due to the abuse I went through at the hands of r/NPD. They are locked off permanently from purely voluntary work due to ingratitude, financial abuse and parasitism, and severe abusiveness. I only learn what I need to in order to help their victims. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hrt8zk/a_psychodynamic_approach_to_the_diagnosis_and/ A Psychodynamic Approach to the Diagnosis and Treatment of Closet Narcissism, Part 5 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alison-Levine/publication/264979201_A_Psychodynamic_Approach_to_the_Diagnosis_and_Treatment_of_Closet_Narcissism/links/53fac2410cf2e3cbf565cc8f/A-Psychodynamic-Approach-to-the-Diagnosis-and-Treatment-of-Closet-Narcissism.pdf 973 Many tech giants view themselves as narcissistic exceptions to the reason we have regulation to begin with: Given the behavior from Amazon on Rufus and similar behavior from Google with similar failure to adapt due to failed comprehension of regulation seen on Facebook as well, they still show signs of failure to learn especially in terms of why AI regulation and ethics exist. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hsr0wk/personality_and_crisis_preparedness_the_mediation/ Personality and Crisis Preparedness: The Mediation and Moderation of Narcissistic-Rivalry and Escalation of Commitment Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/21582440241283164 974 When narcissists are charming or flattering as an attempt to get what they want through manipulation, this is called narcissistic admiration. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hsr0wk/personality_and_crisis_preparedness_the_mediation/ Personality and Crisis Preparedness: The Mediation and Moderation of Narcissistic-Rivalry and Escalation of Commitment Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/21582440241283164 975 Narcissistic rivalry is an aggressive self-protective form of narcissism characterized by devaluing and diminishing other people. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hsr0wk/personality_and_crisis_preparedness_the_mediation/ Personality and Crisis Preparedness: The Mediation and Moderation of Narcissistic-Rivalry and Escalation of Commitment Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/21582440241283164 976 Those who engage in narcissistic rivalry tend to not be conscientious and tend to have low stability. Conscientious individuals were negatively associated with narcissistic rivalry, meaning they didn’t engage in it nearly as often or at all. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hsr0wk/personality_and_crisis_preparedness_the_mediation/ Personality and Crisis Preparedness: The Mediation and Moderation of Narcissistic-Rivalry and Escalation of Commitment Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/21582440241283164 977 Emotional dysregulation was also a strong predictor for an individual engaging in narcissistic rivalry. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hsr0wk/personality_and_crisis_preparedness_the_mediation/ Personality and Crisis Preparedness: The Mediation and Moderation of Narcissistic-Rivalry and Escalation of Commitment Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/21582440241283164 978 Managers not prepared for crisis are narcissistic, self-centered, and deluded by a sense of invulnerability. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hsr0wk/personality_and_crisis_preparedness_the_mediation/ Personality and Crisis Preparedness: The Mediation and Moderation of Narcissistic-Rivalry and Escalation of Commitment Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/21582440241283164 979 This rivalry is to avoid feelings of inferiority. By starting a conflict and trying to psychologically beat the other person down, they think that this will suddenly give them all the traits, work and effort that made them feel inferior. This is clear narcissistic logic. It is broken. That does nothing outside of cause damage, characteristic of the fact narcissists are destructive leaders. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hsr0wk/personality_and_crisis_preparedness_the_mediation/ Personality and Crisis Preparedness: The Mediation and Moderation of Narcissistic-Rivalry and Escalation of Commitment Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/21582440241283164 980 In narcissistic rivalry, the narcissist attempts to humiliate, devalue the worth of the other, and behaves in outwardly aggressive, annoyed, insensitive and defensive ways. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hsr0wk/personality_and_crisis_preparedness_the_mediation/ Personality and Crisis Preparedness: The Mediation and Moderation of Narcissistic-Rivalry and Escalation of Commitment Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/21582440241283164 981 A person in narcissistic rivalry can be detected by heightened fear of failure and heightened envy behaviors. More concerns about fearing failure and more behaviors like hyperfixation, source derogation, etc., are seen. Because conscientious people are less likely to be distracted by or engage in narcissistic rivalry, they show increased crisis preparedness. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hsr0wk/personality_and_crisis_preparedness_the_mediation/ Personality and Crisis Preparedness: The Mediation and Moderation of Narcissistic-Rivalry and Escalation of Commitment Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/21582440241283164 982 Most individuals tend to filter information for whether it is self-serving. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hsr1xn/personality_and_crisis_preparedness_the_mediation/ Personality and Crisis Preparedness: The Mediation and Moderation of Narcissistic-Rivalry and Escalation of Commitment Part 2 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/21582440241283164 983 High locus of control and high escalation of commitment prevents engagement in conflict-exacerbating narcissistic rivalry which makes things worse for everyone from sheer selfish vanity alone. Conscientiousness and optimism will lead to less narcissistic rivalry overall. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hsr1xn/personality_and_crisis_preparedness_the_mediation/ Personality and Crisis Preparedness: The Mediation and Moderation of Narcissistic-Rivalry and Escalation of Commitment Part 2 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/21582440241283164 984 If an individual is not conscientious, however, no level of escalation of commitment will change their ability to resolve narcissistic rivalry. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hsr1xn/personality_and_crisis_preparedness_the_mediation/ Personality and Crisis Preparedness: The Mediation and Moderation of Narcissistic-Rivalry and Escalation of Commitment Part 2 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/21582440241283164 985 If an individual is not conscientious, however, no level of escalation of commitment will change their ability to resolve narcissistic rivalry. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hsr1xn/personality_and_crisis_preparedness_the_mediation/ Personality and Crisis Preparedness: The Mediation and Moderation of Narcissistic-Rivalry and Escalation of Commitment Part 2 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/21582440241283164 986 The NARQ was used to measure narcissistic admiration and rivalry, with “I secretly take pleasure in the failure of my rivals” a relatively disturbing example of narcissistic rivalry well beyond schadenfreude due to active secret involvement in their failure having labelled them a rival. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hsr1xn/personality_and_crisis_preparedness_the_mediation/ Personality and Crisis Preparedness: The Mediation and Moderation of Narcissistic-Rivalry and Escalation of Commitment Part 2 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/21582440241283164 987 Individuals with high levels of conscientiousness and high escalation of commitment showed the lowest levels of rivalry. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hsr1xn/personality_and_crisis_preparedness_the_mediation/ Personality and Crisis Preparedness: The Mediation and Moderation of Narcissistic-Rivalry and Escalation of Commitment Part 2 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/21582440241283164 988 This self-consistency therefore is a direct feature of conscientiousness whereas sunk cost fallacy can be low conscientiousness insofar as it has a high pride feature that suggest an underlying covert narcissistic rivalry logic which was already linked in this paper to low conscientiousness. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hsr1xn/personality_and_crisis_preparedness_the_mediation/ Personality and Crisis Preparedness: The Mediation and Moderation of Narcissistic-Rivalry and Escalation of Commitment Part 2 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/21582440241283164 989 They are opposed in design to exploitative strategies which tend to be parasitic and negative for everyone around them, similar to the social effect of the narcissist which is avoided and noxious because it is negative return for those around them for the effort they put in, aka, The King Midas effect. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1htdy0x/about_some_personality_misfortunes_of/ About Some Personality Misfortunes of Opportunists: The Negative Correlation of Economic Defection With Autonomy, Agreeableness, and Well‐Being Part 1 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kyriaki-Fousiani/publication/230257406_About_Some_Personality_Misfortunes_of_Opportunists_The_Negative_Correlation_of_Economic_Defection_With_Autonomy_Agreeableness_and_Well-Being1/links/5f369a0a299bf13404c1d967/About-Some-Personality-Misfortunes-of-Opportunists-The-Negative-Correlation-of-Economic-Defection-With-Autonomy-Agreeableness-and-Well-Being1.pdf 990 Economic defection and the rendering of contracts moot due to personality weakness is a distinguishing feature of the narcissist: Like Machiavellianism, economic opportunism can be considered a defecting strategy coming from an overall tendency to be less cooperative, to be deregulated and aberrant overall in economic patterns due to lack of contract or lack of rigorous contract, and to lack trust toward economic partners. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1htdy0x/about_some_personality_misfortunes_of/ About Some Personality Misfortunes of Opportunists: The Negative Correlation of Economic Defection With Autonomy, Agreeableness, and Well‐Being Part 1 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kyriaki-Fousiani/publication/230257406_About_Some_Personality_Misfortunes_of_Opportunists_The_Negative_Correlation_of_Economic_Defection_With_Autonomy_Agreeableness_and_Well-Being1/links/5f369a0a299bf13404c1d967/About-Some-Personality-Misfortunes-of-Opportunists-The-Negative-Correlation-of-Economic-Defection-With-Autonomy-Agreeableness-and-Well-Being1.pdf 991 Narcissists are unstable and less agreeable: This tendency to be unstable and less agreeable fits those who have a higher propensity for narcissistic rivalry and who are also bad in emergencies. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1htdy0x/about_some_personality_misfortunes_of/ About Some Personality Misfortunes of Opportunists: The Negative Correlation of Economic Defection With Autonomy, Agreeableness, and Well‐Being Part 1 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kyriaki-Fousiani/publication/230257406_About_Some_Personality_Misfortunes_of_Opportunists_The_Negative_Correlation_of_Economic_Defection_With_Autonomy_Agreeableness_and_Well-Being1/links/5f369a0a299bf13404c1d967/About-Some-Personality-Misfortunes-of-Opportunists-The-Negative-Correlation-of-Economic-Defection-With-Autonomy-Agreeableness-and-Well-Being1.pdf 992 Narcissistic economic defection has massive consequences for their surroundings, including affecting people who never once wanted to be involved with them: This leads to the negative feedback loop cyclic collapses as seen on how those companies that benefitting from Trump’s deregulation, including deregulation with contracts on data and information that ultimately went to China which he ironically does not like, lead to cyclic feedback responses that then hit them hardest, including the Covid-19 collapse of Silicon Valley Bank. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1htdy0x/about_some_personality_misfortunes_of/ About Some Personality Misfortunes of Opportunists: The Negative Correlation of Economic Defection With Autonomy, Agreeableness, and Well‐Being Part 1 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kyriaki-Fousiani/publication/230257406_About_Some_Personality_Misfortunes_of_Opportunists_The_Negative_Correlation_of_Economic_Defection_With_Autonomy_Agreeableness_and_Well-Being1/links/5f369a0a299bf13404c1d967/About-Some-Personality-Misfortunes-of-Opportunists-The-Negative-Correlation-of-Economic-Defection-With-Autonomy-Agreeableness-and-Well-Being1.pdf 993 Narcissists genuinely don't understand prosocial logic and constantly show a trend of trying to rewrite/understand them in a more antisocial way, such as the understanding of the social environment as covert protection (an instrumental/exploitative view of other people) seeking when many people who are their own protection seek out the social space simply to socialize (an autonomous coexistence with other people): Those with dark triad personalities and antisocial personalities will not be able to comprehend these logics will ease and likely will not actually internalize them comprehensively due to a pervasive inability in the antisocial/dark triad personality to really under the logic. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1htdy0x/about_some_personality_misfortunes_of/ About Some Personality Misfortunes of Opportunists: The Negative Correlation of Economic Defection With Autonomy, Agreeableness, and Well‐Being Part 1 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kyriaki-Fousiani/publication/230257406_About_Some_Personality_Misfortunes_of_Opportunists_The_Negative_Correlation_of_Economic_Defection_With_Autonomy_Agreeableness_and_Well-Being1/links/5f369a0a299bf13404c1d967/About-Some-Personality-Misfortunes-of-Opportunists-The-Negative-Correlation-of-Economic-Defection-With-Autonomy-Agreeableness-and-Well-Being1.pdf 994 Narcissists view a sustainable response as a conflict of interest due to a greed/gluttony drive to maximize self-interest. Their economic defection behavior is a manifestation of an attempt to satisfy this drive: This usually happens where there is a perceived conflict of interest; i.e., operating in the way the public is normally behaving is operating against them in some way. In some cases, it is that they are getting in the way of the biggest profit that simply taking the most opportunist behavior (instantiating a complete tragedy of the commons resource theft as soon as possible to the degree possible) seems like the most sensible response to them, especially if they have no intuition of an ongoing social trust-economic health system. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1htdy0x/about_some_personality_misfortunes_of/ About Some Personality Misfortunes of Opportunists: The Negative Correlation of Economic Defection With Autonomy, Agreeableness, and Well‐Being Part 1 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kyriaki-Fousiani/publication/230257406_About_Some_Personality_Misfortunes_of_Opportunists_The_Negative_Correlation_of_Economic_Defection_With_Autonomy_Agreeableness_and_Well-Being1/links/5f369a0a299bf13404c1d967/About-Some-Personality-Misfortunes-of-Opportunists-The-Negative-Correlation-of-Economic-Defection-With-Autonomy-Agreeableness-and-Well-Being1.pdf 995 Economic defection in narcissists highlights how it is a moral, not a medical disorder: As a researcher, highlighting the features of narcissism; manipulativeness, low agreeability, and tendency toward defection is critical. (Narcissism is a moral not a medical disorder; they don’t think there’s anything wrong with the damage they do to others.) https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1htdy0x/about_some_personality_misfortunes_of/ About Some Personality Misfortunes of Opportunists: The Negative Correlation of Economic Defection With Autonomy, Agreeableness, and Well‐Being Part 1 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kyriaki-Fousiani/publication/230257406_About_Some_Personality_Misfortunes_of_Opportunists_The_Negative_Correlation_of_Economic_Defection_With_Autonomy_Agreeableness_and_Well-Being1/links/5f369a0a299bf13404c1d967/About-Some-Personality-Misfortunes-of-Opportunists-The-Negative-Correlation-of-Economic-Defection-With-Autonomy-Agreeableness-and-Well-Being1.pdf 996 Narcissistic Economic defectors did not show capacity to be and think autonomously and were riddled with a parasitic/exploitative logic (aka, they were riddled with aggravated codependent guilt/resentment and high negatively reactive codependency in their logic): Economic defectors were not autonomy oriented and showed higher lying, cheating and lack of honesty showing they know parasitism is not autonomous and are knowledgeably codependent in a way that harms their host. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1htdy0x/about_some_personality_misfortunes_of/ About Some Personality Misfortunes of Opportunists: The Negative Correlation of Economic Defection With Autonomy, Agreeableness, and Well‐Being Part 1 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kyriaki-Fousiani/publication/230257406_About_Some_Personality_Misfortunes_of_Opportunists_The_Negative_Correlation_of_Economic_Defection_With_Autonomy_Agreeableness_and_Well-Being1/links/5f369a0a299bf13404c1d967/About-Some-Personality-Misfortunes-of-Opportunists-The-Negative-Correlation-of-Economic-Defection-With-Autonomy-Agreeableness-and-Well-Being1.pdf 997 Narcissistic economic defection and a "gambler" effect: A “gambler” effect was seen on those with economic opportunism and high economic defecting behavior. They view outcomes as more probabilistic and matters of luck, and abide by this logic with most things whereas a more intrinsically motivated person may focus more on precision strategies due to overall believing that their environment, though not currently mastered and in a state of a probabilistic, unstable nature can be brought into methodologically sound organization. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1htdy0x/about_some_personality_misfortunes_of/ About Some Personality Misfortunes of Opportunists: The Negative Correlation of Economic Defection With Autonomy, Agreeableness, and Well‐Being Part 1 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kyriaki-Fousiani/publication/230257406_About_Some_Personality_Misfortunes_of_Opportunists_The_Negative_Correlation_of_Economic_Defection_With_Autonomy_Agreeableness_and_Well-Being1/links/5f369a0a299bf13404c1d967/About-Some-Personality-Misfortunes-of-Opportunists-The-Negative-Correlation-of-Economic-Defection-With-Autonomy-Agreeableness-and-Well-Being1.pdf 998 Less autonomous individuals, like the narcissistic economic defector, tend to show less health due to increased codependency behaviors: Individuals who do not act with autonomy, namely economic defectors, tend to see lowered health performance overall because autonomy is essential for psychological health (as our statement on AI inferiorism states, codependency reaction causes hypercompetiveness, hyperfixation, and a pervasive sense of malaise that follows in simply trying to be just as good as someone else instead of one’s own thing). https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1htdy0x/about_some_personality_misfortunes_of/ About Some Personality Misfortunes of Opportunists: The Negative Correlation of Economic Defection With Autonomy, Agreeableness, and Well‐Being Part 1 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kyriaki-Fousiani/publication/230257406_About_Some_Personality_Misfortunes_of_Opportunists_The_Negative_Correlation_of_Economic_Defection_With_Autonomy_Agreeableness_and_Well-Being1/links/5f369a0a299bf13404c1d967/About-Some-Personality-Misfortunes-of-Opportunists-The-Negative-Correlation-of-Economic-Defection-With-Autonomy-Agreeableness-and-Well-Being1.pdf 999 Narcissists are low in agreeableness and tend to default to strategies that achieve them a sense of dominance, superiority and power at the expense of constructive conflict resolution. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1htdy0x/about_some_personality_misfortunes_of/ About Some Personality Misfortunes of Opportunists: The Negative Correlation of Economic Defection With Autonomy, Agreeableness, and Well‐Being Part 1 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kyriaki-Fousiani/publication/230257406_About_Some_Personality_Misfortunes_of_Opportunists_The_Negative_Correlation_of_Economic_Defection_With_Autonomy_Agreeableness_and_Well-Being1/links/5f369a0a299bf13404c1d967/About-Some-Personality-Misfortunes-of-Opportunists-The-Negative-Correlation-of-Economic-Defection-With-Autonomy-Agreeableness-and-Well-Being1.pdf 1,000 Narcissists tend to have short-lived, unstable, or miserable relationships due to immediate parasitism of the collective shared pool of trust by constant defaults on trust to achieve a power high as a quick high to resolve feelings of painful codependency that imply inferiority: This makes sense as repeated relational and economic defaults have a trust annihilative effect, and the less trust in a relationship, the less functional it is until it ultimately is dissolved. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1htdy0x/about_some_personality_misfortunes_of/ About Some Personality Misfortunes of Opportunists: The Negative Correlation of Economic Defection With Autonomy, Agreeableness, and Well‐Being Part 1 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kyriaki-Fousiani/publication/230257406_About_Some_Personality_Misfortunes_of_Opportunists_The_Negative_Correlation_of_Economic_Defection_With_Autonomy_Agreeableness_and_Well-Being1/links/5f369a0a299bf13404c1d967/About-Some-Personality-Misfortunes-of-Opportunists-The-Negative-Correlation-of-Economic-Defection-With-Autonomy-Agreeableness-and-Well-Being1.pdf Cookies help us deliver our services. 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