Narcissism Research Table 5
Narcissism Research Table 5 Symptom No. Symptom Link Research Research Link 1,001 Narcissists don't cooperate in conflict resolution: As predicted, economic opportunism and economic defection predicted antagonism and predicted the absence of cooperation. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1htdy0x/about_some_personality_misfortunes_of/ About Some Personality Misfortunes of Opportunists: The Negative Correlation of Economic Defection With Autonomy, Agreeableness, and WellâBeing Part 1 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kyriaki-Fousiani/publication/230257406_About_Some_Personality_Misfortunes_of_Opportunists_The_Negative_Correlation_of_Economic_Defection_With_Autonomy_Agreeableness_and_Well-Being1/links/5f369a0a299bf13404c1d967/About-Some-Personality-Misfortunes-of-Opportunists-The-Negative-Correlation-of-Economic-Defection-With-Autonomy-Agreeableness-and-Well-Being1.pdf 1,002 Narcissists can be identified by their economic opportunism and economic defection behavior. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1htdy0x/about_some_personality_misfortunes_of/ About Some Personality Misfortunes of Opportunists: The Negative Correlation of Economic Defection With Autonomy, Agreeableness, and WellâBeing Part 1 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kyriaki-Fousiani/publication/230257406_About_Some_Personality_Misfortunes_of_Opportunists_The_Negative_Correlation_of_Economic_Defection_With_Autonomy_Agreeableness_and_Well-Being1/links/5f369a0a299bf13404c1d967/About-Some-Personality-Misfortunes-of-Opportunists-The-Negative-Correlation-of-Economic-Defection-With-Autonomy-Agreeableness-and-Well-Being1.pdf 1,003 Narcissists tend to be negative return and unable to stay in stable, financially lucrative business relationships due to their compulsive need to engage in relationship shutting down movement 4 zero sum actions (game shutting down supremacy seeking that may maximize gains now but shut down long term gains): A player with a good strategy can alternate between player 3 movements depending on who initiates the game, distributing the $10 difference between Player 1 and Player 2 over time, maximizing gains for as long as they can remain in trust with each other and trust the other to be on the other side with still a substantial gain than from non-action. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hu1h6o/about_some_personality_misfortunes_of/ About Some Personality Misfortunes of Opportunists: The Negative Correlation of Economic Defection With Autonomy, Agreeableness, and WellâBeing Part 2 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kyriaki-Fousiani/publication/230257406_About_Some_Personality_Misfortunes_of_Opportunists_The_Negative_Correlation_of_Economic_Defection_With_Autonomy_Agreeableness_and_Well-Being1/links/5f369a0a299bf13404c1d967/About-Some-Personality-Misfortunes-of-Opportunists-The-Negative-Correlation-of-Economic-Defection-With-Autonomy-Agreeableness-and-Well-Being1.pdf 1,004 The narcissist takes the short term zero sum win due to lack of foresight and loses the long term cooperativity game if multiple games are possible, incentivizing and normalizing avoid strategies in the next game. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hu1h6o/about_some_personality_misfortunes_of/ About Some Personality Misfortunes of Opportunists: The Negative Correlation of Economic Defection With Autonomy, Agreeableness, and WellâBeing Part 2 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kyriaki-Fousiani/publication/230257406_About_Some_Personality_Misfortunes_of_Opportunists_The_Negative_Correlation_of_Economic_Defection_With_Autonomy_Agreeableness_and_Well-Being1/links/5f369a0a299bf13404c1d967/About-Some-Personality-Misfortunes-of-Opportunists-The-Negative-Correlation-of-Economic-Defection-With-Autonomy-Agreeableness-and-Well-Being1.pdf 1,005 Acts of blatant economic defection of blatant relational injustice such as the difference between âabusive blockingâ and âreal blockingâ described in the rules of the subreddit show how this Movement 4 $40 game has the inferior long term strategy long run through rapacious violation of the available trust resources. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hu1h6o/about_some_personality_misfortunes_of/ About Some Personality Misfortunes of Opportunists: The Negative Correlation of Economic Defection With Autonomy, Agreeableness, and WellâBeing Part 2 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kyriaki-Fousiani/publication/230257406_About_Some_Personality_Misfortunes_of_Opportunists_The_Negative_Correlation_of_Economic_Defection_With_Autonomy_Agreeableness_and_Well-Being1/links/5f369a0a299bf13404c1d967/About-Some-Personality-Misfortunes-of-Opportunists-The-Negative-Correlation-of-Economic-Defection-With-Autonomy-Agreeableness-and-Well-Being1.pdf 1,005 Narcissists can't think of a team and react destructively on small, temporary comparative reductions in overall profit sharing, even if on the next turn they will be on the other side of the greater profit. They thus take a zero sum supremacy seeking game-shutting down action type when they feel comparatively inferior and therefore show no capacity for the relational long game: Narcissists will continually fail to take a small imbalance (the difference between $10 that they can make up on the next round, even with a $5 profit to tide them off for now) due to the mere comparative loss of it instead of the objective win irregardless and will therefore make chronically bad, shortsighted choices and chronically regret them later. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hu1h6o/about_some_personality_misfortunes_of/ About Some Personality Misfortunes of Opportunists: The Negative Correlation of Economic Defection With Autonomy, Agreeableness, and WellâBeing Part 2 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kyriaki-Fousiani/publication/230257406_About_Some_Personality_Misfortunes_of_Opportunists_The_Negative_Correlation_of_Economic_Defection_With_Autonomy_Agreeableness_and_Well-Being1/links/5f369a0a299bf13404c1d967/About-Some-Personality-Misfortunes-of-Opportunists-The-Negative-Correlation-of-Economic-Defection-With-Autonomy-Agreeableness-and-Well-Being1.pdf 1,006 Narcissists tend to do best under materially or sexually capitalist behaviorism (many economies that don't identify as capitalist still show all the signs of sexual capitalism, aka hypergamy) otherwise they show an amotivational predisposition: Individuals who have a defecting economic propensity/economic opportunism were more behaviorist and in its absence, amotivational (they didnât do much at all without external behaviorism carrot-and-stick supports). https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hu1h6o/about_some_personality_misfortunes_of/ About Some Personality Misfortunes of Opportunists: The Negative Correlation of Economic Defection With Autonomy, Agreeableness, and WellâBeing Part 2 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kyriaki-Fousiani/publication/230257406_About_Some_Personality_Misfortunes_of_Opportunists_The_Negative_Correlation_of_Economic_Defection_With_Autonomy_Agreeableness_and_Well-Being1/links/5f369a0a299bf13404c1d967/About-Some-Personality-Misfortunes-of-Opportunists-The-Negative-Correlation-of-Economic-Defection-With-Autonomy-Agreeableness-and-Well-Being1.pdf 1,007 Narcissists treat available trust like a nonrenewable energy source when it is perfectly renewable, ruining it for everyone: Long term movement 4 behavior in each new game, treating trust like a nonrenewable energy source, can have extremely destructive results for the network of trust. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hu1h6o/about_some_personality_misfortunes_of/ About Some Personality Misfortunes of Opportunists: The Negative Correlation of Economic Defection With Autonomy, Agreeableness, and WellâBeing Part 2 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kyriaki-Fousiani/publication/230257406_About_Some_Personality_Misfortunes_of_Opportunists_The_Negative_Correlation_of_Economic_Defection_With_Autonomy_Agreeableness_and_Well-Being1/links/5f369a0a299bf13404c1d967/About-Some-Personality-Misfortunes-of-Opportunists-The-Negative-Correlation-of-Economic-Defection-With-Autonomy-Agreeableness-and-Well-Being1.pdf 1,008 Being on the other side of zero sum can be hard for rank 3 (both don't economically defect at any point) economic agents to adjust to. Deutsche bank's behavior shows a struggle with incredulousness of the reality of Trump's behavior. The best that is often initially done around a defaulter like Trump is to grin and bear it and just be meaninglessly loyal and when they get betrayed to still not know what to do but keep doing what worked last time. Deutsche Bank shows a lot of the signs of this behavior. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hu1h6o/about_some_personality_misfortunes_of/ About Some Personality Misfortunes of Opportunists: The Negative Correlation of Economic Defection With Autonomy, Agreeableness, and WellâBeing Part 2 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kyriaki-Fousiani/publication/230257406_About_Some_Personality_Misfortunes_of_Opportunists_The_Negative_Correlation_of_Economic_Defection_With_Autonomy_Agreeableness_and_Well-Being1/links/5f369a0a299bf13404c1d967/About-Some-Personality-Misfortunes-of-Opportunists-The-Negative-Correlation-of-Economic-Defection-With-Autonomy-Agreeableness-and-Well-Being1.pdf 1,009 Housing as a human right may have a stopping effect on a hemorrhaging economy after repeat narcissistic zero sum abuse given it encourages mutual non-defection (landlords that repeatedly evict their tenants tend to be driven out of business): Defection can therefore be a fear of rocking the boat and doing the wrong thing and losing the senseless, low self-consistent experience of the âlove of the landlordâ. Many residents of past Soviet Union countries state they have just this experience of life and government. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hu1h6o/about_some_personality_misfortunes_of/ About Some Personality Misfortunes of Opportunists: The Negative Correlation of Economic Defection With Autonomy, Agreeableness, and WellâBeing Part 2 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kyriaki-Fousiani/publication/230257406_About_Some_Personality_Misfortunes_of_Opportunists_The_Negative_Correlation_of_Economic_Defection_With_Autonomy_Agreeableness_and_Well-Being1/links/5f369a0a299bf13404c1d967/About-Some-Personality-Misfortunes-of-Opportunists-The-Negative-Correlation-of-Economic-Defection-With-Autonomy-Agreeableness-and-Well-Being1.pdf 1,010 Little to no rank 3 non-narcissistic economic agents (mutual non-defection) and mostly rank 1 and rank 2 is attributed to failure to create a culture of working trust: The authors put continuous rank 1 or rank 2 states down to failure to actively and explicitly create a culture of social norms and values, aka, much of education is scaffolding and helping people know what they should do and get them practice in doing it. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hu1h6o/about_some_personality_misfortunes_of/ About Some Personality Misfortunes of Opportunists: The Negative Correlation of Economic Defection With Autonomy, Agreeableness, and WellâBeing Part 2 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kyriaki-Fousiani/publication/230257406_About_Some_Personality_Misfortunes_of_Opportunists_The_Negative_Correlation_of_Economic_Defection_With_Autonomy_Agreeableness_and_Well-Being1/links/5f369a0a299bf13404c1d967/About-Some-Personality-Misfortunes-of-Opportunists-The-Negative-Correlation-of-Economic-Defection-With-Autonomy-Agreeableness-and-Well-Being1.pdf 1,011 Narcissists' economic behavior is defensive, it is not proactive and therefore does not show signs of capacity for economic leadership: Economic defection is considered a defensive strategy adopted by less autonomous individuals. They experience low well-being and have a reactance-based motive given they experience economic environments as uncertain and controlling that you enter and jump out of at the first sign of a large gain. Narcissists fit this profile almost completely. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hu1h6o/about_some_personality_misfortunes_of/ About Some Personality Misfortunes of Opportunists: The Negative Correlation of Economic Defection With Autonomy, Agreeableness, and WellâBeing Part 2 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kyriaki-Fousiani/publication/230257406_About_Some_Personality_Misfortunes_of_Opportunists_The_Negative_Correlation_of_Economic_Defection_With_Autonomy_Agreeableness_and_Well-Being1/links/5f369a0a299bf13404c1d967/About-Some-Personality-Misfortunes-of-Opportunists-The-Negative-Correlation-of-Economic-Defection-With-Autonomy-Agreeableness-and-Well-Being1.pdf 1,012 Brexit and Trump's behavior with Deutsche are both good modern examples of narcissistic economic defection behavior, and the agents beyond both definitely show all the signs of narcissism that had profoundly destructive effects across the world on people that never wanted anything to do with them: In general, Brexit can also help us to understand defector behavior as can Trumpâs similar treatment of Deutsche and the shared feature of narcissism can be studied for its object constancy expectations as a deeper reality to their economic zero-sum behavior. It is not a factual, concrete reality but has its own deeper logic that is amenable to further incision into its deeper psychological causes. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hu1h6o/about_some_personality_misfortunes_of/ About Some Personality Misfortunes of Opportunists: The Negative Correlation of Economic Defection With Autonomy, Agreeableness, and WellâBeing Part 2 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kyriaki-Fousiani/publication/230257406_About_Some_Personality_Misfortunes_of_Opportunists_The_Negative_Correlation_of_Economic_Defection_With_Autonomy_Agreeableness_and_Well-Being1/links/5f369a0a299bf13404c1d967/About-Some-Personality-Misfortunes-of-Opportunists-The-Negative-Correlation-of-Economic-Defection-With-Autonomy-Agreeableness-and-Well-Being1.pdf 1,013 Narcissists have a tendency to falsely appraise everything in terms of their family system without checking the accuracy of these maps: Psychological symbolic maps in decision making are quite real as seen by the common theme in narcissists of falsely appraising everything in terms of their own family system (doing what they know, even when the object-overlay relation is really, really asymmetrical and uncalled for.) https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hu1h6o/about_some_personality_misfortunes_of/ About Some Personality Misfortunes of Opportunists: The Negative Correlation of Economic Defection With Autonomy, Agreeableness, and WellâBeing Part 2 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kyriaki-Fousiani/publication/230257406_About_Some_Personality_Misfortunes_of_Opportunists_The_Negative_Correlation_of_Economic_Defection_With_Autonomy_Agreeableness_and_Well-Being1/links/5f369a0a299bf13404c1d967/About-Some-Personality-Misfortunes-of-Opportunists-The-Negative-Correlation-of-Economic-Defection-With-Autonomy-Agreeableness-and-Well-Being1.pdf 1,014 Neoliberalism encourages a narcissistic/exploitative socialization style: Neoliberal sociality is a means to an ends in gaining buying power to achieve more self-enhancing objects; it is pervaded with a general sense of âlovelessnessâ that is only tolerated in order to recognize, acknowledge and mutually regard oneâs things. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hunq39/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 1 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,015 Narcissism is fine, normal and healthy at very early stages in human development. It is not fine, normal and healthy in later stages of development. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hunq39/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 1 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,016 Much of economics rewards narcissistic self-fulfillment: Self-fulfilling pricing models abound in economic behavior, including the comedic effect of a marketing campaign turning what was considered valueless into quite expensive and popular over night. Ex: furbies https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hunq39/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 1 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,017 Neoliberalism attempts to keep the personality narcissistic and unstable so that more and more self-enhancement objects are needed to maintain a basic sense of stability. Basically, capitalism has some interest in keeping things abusive, unstable and mentally ill. Many of the countries infamous for a population with low cancer disposition have diets, behaviors, and beliefs that are lower than normal in capitalistic behavior precisely because of this instrumentally injected abuse, instability and mentally illness is weighed and not considered worth it, sparing the body. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hunq39/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 1 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,018 Neoliberalism exacerbates the situation where it purports to solve it, driving up the demand for rigid personality defenses: Inability to attain narcissistic fulfillment often leads to advice that more deeply engrains the individual in the very cycles that failed to fulfill them. Economic performativity thus increases, becoming fueled by narcissistic rage. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hunq39/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 1 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,019 Unidirectional as opposed to bidirectional attachments are encouraged to keep the psyche unstable and insecure so that they will be stopped up with materialistic self-enhancements. This encourages narcissism, which thinks it is too good to reciprocate when in most cases there are equivalent, much stronger and healthier reciprocated equivalents of the same relation. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hunq39/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 1 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,020 Narcissism rewards those that have stockholm syndrome white knight behavior toward it: A knee jerk attempt to protect and defend capitalism (âitâs not good for the market to challenge its abusive logicâ) as the abuser is also encouraged as a valiant Stockholm syndrome. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hunq39/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 1 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,021 Narcissists come to deeply depend on their self-enhancements, giving extreme pitches of capitalism their full precarity: Fear of losing oneâs self-extending capitalistic objects creates the desirous/anxious psychological environment of neoliberal precarity. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hunq39/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 1 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,022 A disturbing amount of people show no ability to organize their lives for themselves, so capitalitic behavior is more than happy to do this work for them, incentivizing the narcissism of false sociality, rejection as a force of the capitalist psychological wound that is stopped up with discardable items, and generally encouraged excessive external self-enhancement: The âmoney takes moneyâ tautological logic of moneyâs abiding discipline quells anxiety that springs from relative powerlessness. The relatively general acceptance of normalized financial behaviorism provides a good-enough organizing logic to what would be a directionless life. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hunq39/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 1 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,023 Narcissistic demands contribute to non-rational behavior in the economic sphere. (Large, credit-backed hauls to keep up materials-wise with oneâs appearances with peers). https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hunq39/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 1 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,024 Developmental wounds as encouraging the development of narcissism to incentivize militarism and capitalism: For instance, some cultures may encourage not mirroring their child at critical points to encourage profound psychological pain that later will be stopped up with all sorts of materialist behavior. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hunq39/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 1 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,025 Capitalist logic is often self-policing with violating zero sum behavior happening at the hands of agents who otherwise resent or decry capitalism, aka, they complain but ultimately show no ability to abundantly and sustainably outthink its logic: Similarly, profound victims of capitalism may be genuinely unable to do this mirroring nor see the problem; profit-maximizing behavior can even insidiously infect relationship, such as again on a few rap game show channels there being videos where they purposefully reject and terrorize their crush for the capitalistic high of seeing it (this makes no sense, outside of capitalism policing and encouraging people to wound each other so theyâll go out and buy fits to get them on the next round.) https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hunq39/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 1 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,026 Chinese debt for social control and Chinese social credit may experience those exiting an attempt to create a capital situation so out of ratio to its debt it essentially has a zero sum effect (the 0 in the 0:40 movement 4 zero sum narcissistic action) as a movement 4 in itself; this is not correct, as if interaction creates crippling debt meant to socially control the individual in ways many states consider illegal, then a rational agent is incentivized to back out before this debt can be created and to avoid future games with the agent that attempted this as they did worse, not better, interacting (movement 4 result). (China is not the only one who has done this, though it currently does a lot of this in places like Africa. France and England notoriously did this to Germany, and Germany has done this to other nations as well. Similar instances are found all over the world.) https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hunq39/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 1 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,027 Narcissistic economic actions can destroy the rarer and rarer rank 3 economic cultures: However, in high rank 3 economic environments (both cooperating, distributing a profit according to passivity and agency in the win), large movement 4 behaviors are not self-interested because it will start to incentivize people opting out initially instead of remaining in the game long-term over time due to pervasive rank 3 economic relationships. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hunq39/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 1 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,028 The idea that zero sum narcissistic wealth seeking is always the rational move is not an intelligent assessment. The state of the surrounding environment and the abilities of the surrounding agents is critical. Failure to factor in these actions create irrational profoundly destructive economic behavior that destroys, not increases, economic health: Thus, someone acting in what was otherwise self-interest (large movement 4 behavior) in one environment (normalized rank 1) acting in what would be considered non self-interested behavior (large movement 4 behavior) in another environment (normalized rank 3) might be called âself-interestedâ but only when they begin to fail be called not self-interested, belying the broken âmoney takes moneyâ tautology of the economic use of self-interest that doesnât necessarily mean anything. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hunq39/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 1 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,029 Economics is riddled with undue factuality of what is and isn't self-interest; examination of the specific features of the economic environment is becoming increasingly recognized as the more intelligent analysis type: Instead, context, normalization, and development structure should all be analyzed in a much more nuanced, multi-factor way to determine if, given what one knows, the action taken was self-interested and rational up to that point. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hunq39/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 1 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,030 Narcissistic injury again is a large cause of predatory and violating movement 4 zero sum behaviors. These are âcostly campaigns of vengeanceâ because they cause full game-exiting behavior. They fail to maintain a long-term sustainable environment. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hunq39/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 1 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,031 TW: Rape. Narcissists can become so used to an unsustainable zero sum parasitic performance that they can threaten suicide, the least self-interested action, to try to extort back into place repeat zero sum predatory games, the most self-interested action. This shows that much of narcissistic logic is fundamentally out of self-consistence, therefore nothing to build on and deeply unhinged: Sometimes it can be nothing any less petty than committing suicide due to feeling that entitled to another person as a narcissistic self-extension to internalize and fuse with as well as exploit in a zero sum fashion. They have no right at any point to be so entitled and can threaten repeatedly and even complete suicide to reestablish the economically zero sum repeat encounter that carries all the same energy of repeat sexual violence because they feel that superior to the victim, have become that addicted to it, and genuinely think they deserve it. They don't. (An example may be trying to violently force someone into sex work by saying people are killing themselves if they don't, when all signs point to this being a massive act of discreditation, economic violence and humiliation and a way to enact sexual, psychological and physical violence upon the victim in a socially sanctioned way.) Such things are horrific and unbelievable, but they do occur. It should be viewed as the equivalent of committing suicide for losing their ego-basing rpe victim. That things can get that horrific can trigger secondary suicide in witnessing parties to just know someone was capable of something like that. Thus only an incompetent state actor would not deal with the perpetrator immediately and competently. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hunq39/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 1 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,032 Puritanical narcissism: General hatred and casual covert contempt toward Muslims, homeless, a broken and anti-science view against everything SAMHSA has researched with addiction, and ongoing issues that echoed the original Fauci issues with the AIDS crisis are all weaknesses of Puritanism all too suspiciously shared in the behavior, beliefs, and over-moralizations of the Gates foundation.Real hatred is seen and the failing levels of support, including 3rd Avenue and Aurora in Seattle right where Gates is based, show that Puritanical hatred does nothing for anyone, nor does any Catholic variation of barely disguised vitriol towards certain populations. There is more than enough research and more than enough European and global role models exist on how to successfully treat just this situation (Nordic model, housing as a human right model, SAMHSA proven research on the treatment of addiction). https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hva9wo/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 2 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,033 Narcissisitic logic refuses to respond to vulnerable, honest, and sincere energy self-policing into place the rigorous narcissistic ego defense as the standard of anything worthy only to constantly criticize it as "false" "phony" and unworthy: Unwillingness to respond to the unextended, non-materialist/non-narcissistically performative self belies that the average human is so embedded in narcissistic logic that the vulnerable self is seen as unworthy of basic response, when in a healthy psychological environment, that level of honesty, sincerity, and integrity is all that is worth responding to and the rest should not have any time spent on it. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hva9wo/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 2 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,034 Cowardice behind the excessively rigid narcissistic defense: Complete inability to be vulnerable ended up betraying an extremely fragile self behind many of the most hardcore actions afraid of being used, manipulated, and treated falsely. It takes the rare game of both putting down their defenses to end this rigidifying narcissistic defense loop to which there really is no end, including going all the way down to illegal surveillance, robocops, and normalized military tech suits. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hva9wo/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 2 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,035 Dehumanization in the narcissistic defense to through an illusion of invulnerability (predatory, dehumanizing position) try to get codependent vulnerability needs met (voyeurism, stalking, hyperfixation):Dehumanizing the victim while clearly not being there for predatory purposes (aka, the person has repeatedly broken past their defenses) is again a machismo narcissistic defense for the desire to be vulnerable that they unfortunately are too cowardly to admit and break. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hva9wo/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 2 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,036 Capitalism incentivizes narcissism by getting people to self-police to prevent vulnerable expressions, i.e., see Bernie Sanders, the most notorious anti-capitalist, starting to comedically call people "weird" as a method and means to self-police ironically the very energy that largely got himself where he did: Soon, all its victims become self-policing no matter what they once believed, making sure nobody strays too far from capitalism and making them feel shame and abnormality if they do. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hva9wo/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 2 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,037 Hoarding can be a psychological defense to narcissistic injury in a narcissistic relation/dynamic system: When viewed through narcissistic injury, hoarding can be essentially hemorrhaging from psychological pain through objects. One would be served better to treat the source of the pain directly, as each item has a combustible and short moment of relief, before inevitably as all addictions another one is required. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hva9wo/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 2 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,038 Environmental materialist cloning/replication as considered the valid narcissistic substitute for working out one's inferiority to the replicated individuals and a valid narcissistic substitute to self-connecting and developing one's own identity: Feeling outshone by a celebrity couple with which one identifies or other features can result in narcissistic injury that then becomes an attempt to materially recreate the environment instead of asking oneself what one personally wants to be, what one can do that is more specific to oneâs own individual personality and needs, and if this really addresses the core psychological wound. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hva9wo/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 2 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,039 Social media allows a narcissistic voyeurism that extracts and strips satisfying social environments of their genuine connection by insidiously inserting capitalist dynamics, features and characters, as well as strips their dynamics for replicable, sellable parts that takes away the entire soul of the interaction: The hope for and achievement of a fulfilling social life is often then studied and insidiously infested relatively quickly by capitalism unless one renews it to drive its predatory, unwanted presence out of the possibility of real connection. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hva9wo/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 2 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,040 Narcissistic social environment extraction often is parasitic, leading to the full collapse of the parasited businesses unlucky enough to predatorily surveilled in this way: It was surprising to see who obliged and helped with such an infestation, only to wonder where their businesses or cultures went (I just saw today another small business close, meanwhile, we are being told to âsaveâ in terms of small businessesâŚit becomes clearer and clearer it is a highly-dressed up envy response in many cases). https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hva9wo/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 2 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,041 Narcissistic injury precludes empathy and capitalism is more than happy to come in and offer something to temporarily and materialistically stop the pain: When in narcissistic injury, people are not able to feel empathy. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hva9wo/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 2 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,042 Narcissistic grandiosity can in such cases of suffocating capitalism be an attempt to burst past its stifling effect that has a profoundly deleterious effect on creativity and achieve a breath of fresh air in real inspiration: Grandiosity in such cases is an attempt to gain a breath of fresh air from capitalism in increasingly stilted, surveilled, market-mediated interactions. It is like bursting up through the water while otherwise sinking in an increasingly subconscious dream state where the market takes up the slack where the agent has failed to organize their own life and connect with their own self enough to know if they really want or will be satisfied long term by something. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hva9wo/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 2 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,043 Similar to capitalism have organizations for otherwise directionless lives, astroturfed predesigned structures of millionaire and billionaire funded campaigns often have a large "organic" following that latches onto these readymade structures that follow the logic of the ultrarich who ironically don't have much respect for these upper middle class individuals and view them as not much more than a mildly irritating means to a political power ends: Though genuinely and largely astroturfed by billionaires and millionaires as such things tend to be (genuine grassroots movements have a literal 1% donation rate, they do not get very far. So a movement getting very far with a far higher rate is probably a really dishonest astroturf. Even Obama was backed by Soros in his initial years), these individuals nevertheless genuinely latched on from white upper middle class lives, happy to take a premade structure that had its success already linked to the top and therefore conspired for. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hva9wo/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 2 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,044 Narcissists encourage and attempt to program responsibilization for everyone around them, but for them personally it is everyone else's fault and problem. This is on purpose to rationalize and instantiate a narcissist supremacy where everyone is subordinated by their own victim blaming for what the narcissist does: Narcissistic rage encourages others to take responsibility for everything that happens in their lives, but never for them themselves to do that; for them themselves, they are the victim of everyone else. This is to cause them to self-blame and internalize their own victim-blaming and remain subordinate inferiors that can be blamed for anything while being told their responsibilization is for their own good. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hva9wo/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 2 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,045 The idea that accessible high quality medical care should not be accessible to the "undeserving" betrays all the narcissistic beliefs that ironically lead to the worst medical care: The idea that normalized medical care is âundeservingâ is a product of narcissistic logic that thinks that people should not receive care unless deeply embedded in predatory behavior. Ironically, such predatory behavior is antithetical to high quality professional care with low visits, costs that match the work and are not hiked for profitâs sake without any backing quality, and generally strong results. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hva9wo/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 2 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,046 Hardcore scenes often are covers for closeted extreme codependency rage by an otherwise narcissistic population: Again âhardcoreâ scenes, machismo, and manhood all emphasize self-reliance but ironically create performances of it and not actually autonomous individuals, creating an ongoing increasing hell of encountering the high closted codependency rage population. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hva9wo/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 2 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,047 Vanity based spirals of compulsive self-harm in narcissists in the attempt to narcissistically perform non-codependence codependently by performing not caring actions that were clearly preceded by profound codependency actions: The Tea Party was a good example of individuals in narcissistic injury taking zero sum, defection actions to perform not caring and just making the situation hemorrhage and spiral to even worse new levels. And of course, not caring was performed with each increase in devastating incompetence. It starts to look like vanity based compulsive self-harm at a certain point. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hva9wo/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 2 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,048 "Cub defending" as a cover for narcissistic injury and resulting narcissistic rage in female narcissists with children: âMama grizzliesâ and âcub defendingâ begging was seen in female Tea Partyists, when in fact a more maternal predisposition would result in the spending necessary to instantiate Obama Care because who wouldnât want there to be a structure for actually functional medical care in place should the unthinkable happen to you, your estate, or your child. It was a female gender specific cover for profound narcissistic injury that used their children as self-enhancements useful for the narrative to enact the aggression against the object of narcissistic rage (the object that initiated the narcissistic injury) and discardable afterwards. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hva9wo/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 2 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,049 Gender narcissism as an increasingly disabling vulnerability in the narcissistic rage of the American psyche (the unpatchable vulnerability that more and more malicious states are learning to exploit for the mere comedic effect of it; aka, give critical intelligence or positions to a woman/girl in America and their whole operation will be completely devastated unable to transcend the gender neuroticism): Much of laborâs turn to the right was reflected in the betrayal of Kamala Harris in the 2024 election by top unionist leaders along gender neuroticism lines. The battle of ongoing gendered issues with Kamalaâs attorney general position successfully and all too pathetically split the party apart much to any enemy's glee (misogyny is an increasingly embarrassing unmended vulnerability in the American psyche that literally everyone with any malicious intent abroad is learning to exploit in just how deeply pathetic and seemingly unpatchable to the American male narcissism it is). Moments of narcissistic rage split what should have been otherwise obvious alliances apart in truly the most deeply, utterly embarrassing and disappointing way. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hva9wo/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 2 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,050 Racial narcissism as compensation for narcissistic injury: Ironically Aryan fetishism, including the lukewarm covertly encouraged feature of this still insidious to allegedly more Christianized Germany, is likely an attempt to compensate through allegedly racial self-consistency for ongoing massive struggles with logical self-consistency. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hvoafh/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 3 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,051 The Tea Party movement is a glorified self-enhancement where people not making much money at all nevertheless identify with millionaires and billionaires like Ted Cruz and the attending Donald Trump as narcissistic self-extension to fulfill delusional feelings of grandiosity. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hvoafh/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 3 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,052 Thus, many of the adherents nurture feelings of solipsistic grandiosity that inhibit empathy and focus on a false self-making and self-sufficiency that shows extremes of covert codependency behavior. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hvoafh/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 3 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,053 Delusions of Americaâs history also persist to keep the narcissistic grandiose delusion; America is said to start as a capitalist state, when in fact it was several victims of a capitalist state shaking it off and instantiating a monarch-less American brand egalitarianism in text less fraternal than France's but in reality not actually able to transcend this with any more success. However, it quickly rotted back into narcissistic subordinated capitalism exactly of the style against which a successful revolution was staged as seen on the quick attending rot in the South that was thrown off during the Civil War, and this at least is correct. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hvoafh/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 3 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,054 Hypocritical social darwinism in the narcissist: Ironically these were protectionist products of the British monarchy which premised their monarchy on a brand of Social Darwinism where protectionism is otherwise clearly recognized to be against Social Darwinism. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hvoafh/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 3 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,055 Viewing the poor as parasitic and undeserving of quality care is aligned with Satanism, not Christianity: Tea Parties attempt to purify themselves through the discipline of money and Christian values. However, it becomes clear it is more about the discipline of money, which is again more Satanically aligned, when Obamacare and other critical infrastructure is attacked when Jesus clearly was a big fan of healing the poor and sick and that this is not supported on the lines of money concerns alone. Many religious Satanists feel the exact same way, that these individuals are parasitic and undeserving. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hvoafh/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 3 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,056 Economic invulnerability in tea partiers: Tea Partiers are against social security and Medicare, even though about 40% of them will likely need or at risk of needing it, showing their allegiance with millionaires and billionaires is for the grandiose self-enhancement of it and does not reflect the reality of their financial situations which would be befitted from a financial realism. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hvoafh/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 3 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,057 Tea partiers show narcissism where they identify with a class they're locked off of due to lack of social skills and lack of ability to put their people first that differentiates the low from high classes. They are often rejected by the very people they identify with after they see how they treat their people: Taxes on the wealthy being reduced actually harm many Tea Parties who made less than $50,000 annually showing they are deep in narcissistic delusion and believe they possess the exact same traits and financial situation as those they narcissistically subordinate to simply for their subordinating behavior and ongoing rejected fusion and self-enhancement attempts. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hvoafh/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 3 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,058 Chronic narcissistic rage and narcissistic injury at attempted fusions with the millionaire and billionaire class rejected for their relatively low income, poor family relations where low class is usually separated from high class by the observable differences in treatment of their people and poor social skills. These rejections based on these failures cause them to attempt to fuse harder again to stop up the narcissistic injury. Again they are rejected. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hvoafh/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 3 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,059 High hate due to high narcissism have a deleterious effect on creative and political energy, aka essentially something of an infertilizing effect: Ultimately, this creates a high hate body that depletes the creative and political capacities around it as most deeply hateful energies tend to do, with similar effects found on a hatefulness on the other side of the spectrum, the ongoing Purtianical ascetism surrounding the Gates foundation that has left the heart of Seattle where the founders have lived for the greater portion of their lives riddled with public displays of health administration incompetence that should not befit someone who wants to be a leader of such a field for the entire world when mastery is not even demonstrated in their immediate vicinity. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hvoafh/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 3 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,060 Exacting revenge is both a tenant of Satanism and narcissism found on the allegedly Christian tea partiers: The Tea Partyâs insistence on exacting revenge when others are not in accordance with possessive individualism, another alliance of the Satanic that encourages revenge, scapegoating, and hatred of those willing to be vulnerable, realist, and accept support. Rather, it encourages the performance of autonomy while showing intense codependent and fusion needs betraying the fact no real autonomy has occurred.âSatanism says that ideologies of peace repress our naturally violent instincts. Satanism provides an empowerment that âcomes in many forms: the description of violence as natural and therefore both acceptable and inevitable, the championing of revenge and concomitant need for enemies.âhttps://col5072h.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/jagoe-final-4-0-done.pdf https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hvoafh/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 3 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,061 Rage being met with more rage does a grand total of absolutely nothing, leaders switch to harmonic and empathy-emphasizing narratives when ongoing crises have not seen critical resolution: Rage being met with more rage is leaderless and leads to unproductive energy that fails to provide for even the basic stability required for successfully transmuting narcissism since everyone is so busy expressing their ongoing destabilizing narcissistic rages with a relative, addicted clockwork with no stopping in sight. Countering this logic requires an agentic, deliberate switch to empathy-based narratives, not those more aligned with the beliefs found in The Will to Violence. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hvoafh/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 3 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,062 Narcissists can not feel real empathy because that violates their sense of nonexistent superiority in many cases. Thus they mistake sympathy for empathy: Neoliberalism mistakes sympathy for empathy, demonstrating how basically incapable of it it is in doing so. Most dark triad and antisocial personality disorders show a similar basic inability to understand or feel empathy. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hvoafh/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 3 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,063 As usual, narcissists try to shift the narrative from emphasis on the victims getting care to the victim catering to their narcissistic psychological needs. Strong boundaries should be held by anyone therapeutically competent in this attempt because the victims do not have enough for themselves: These individuals are encouraged to follow their therapeutic recommendations while those who are victimized are encouraged to follow theirs; namely the preservation of their self-esteem by putting the victimâs, not the narcissistâs psychological needs, first. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hvoafh/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 3 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,064 Narcissists demand attention and responsiveness in a manner that they in no way give back, showing a dysfunctional unidirectional personality design that is negative return for non-narcissists unfortunate enough to encounter them. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,065 Grandoise narcissism appears to not be merely equivalent to high self-esteem but is rather marked and riddled with zero sum beliefs and can be identified on that basis: Grandiose narcissism tends to do better, but still has a signature zero-sum defunct belief system not capable of synergy and premised often on assertional, not rigorous and citational, pseudoscience. Vulnerable narcissism tends to be more distrustful and isolated, and more prone to self-psychologism. It is still markedly zero sum, but recognizes it is on the losing position. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,066 Trifurcated Narcissism Trait No. 1. Narcissistic antagonism: Individuals high in antagonism tend to be arrogant, callous, deceitful, entitled, exploitative and cynical, which are the most notoriously noxious features of narcissism. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,067 Trifurcated Narcissism Trait No. 2. Agentic extraversion gives narcissism its more attractive features, with adaptive grandiosity (less noxious, less interpersonal problems), more leadership, higher self-esteem and more approach than avoid (proactive, rather than reactive). However, it is still highly comparative and zero sum. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,068 Trifurcated Narcissism Trait No. 3. Narcissistic neuroticism bears its codependency reaction feature: Neuroticism is contingent self-esteem which is the reactive codependence of narcissism where the narcissist can be practically enslaved to the opinions of others in what is a more markedly painful way to them especially as these features are increasingly fraught with gaslighting in a world increasingly riddled with narcissists willing to instrumentally do violence to the nature of truth; this is something they share in common with those with dependent personality disorder. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,069 Conflation of self-esteem with grandiosity: Self-esteem is often conflated with narcissistic grandiosity, but research on the matter very clearly differentiates these two. How and why needs more attention, while to date it is clear that most of narcissism is based on the zero-sum premised comparative logic that is not sustainable to psychological health and relational stability in the long term. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,070 Self-esteem is often claimed to be the grandiosity expression. However it is not. Self-esteem is not aggressive, antisocial, interpersonally cold or littered with a suite of interpersonally problematic traits: Not conflating narcissism with self-esteem is critical. Self-esteem should be seen as a good thing because it is; it is agentic, prosocial, and adaptive when sustainably premised on non-comparative logic. Conversely, grandiose narcissism was uniquely linked to aggression, interpersonal coldness, antisociality, and a suite of interpersonally problematic traits https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,071 Self-reports are challenged for their accuracy because many narcissists try to hide their narcissistic features to achieve selection with non-narcissistic partners that they view as useful or valuable to them when they know these non-narcissistic patners do not want narcissistic partners. The integration of multiple measures and an emphasis on derivation using general personality traits like meaningless disagreeableness which are relatively obvious and present in day to day life is encouraged: Self-reports for narcissism have been challenged as lacking validity as people assume narcissists tend to self-report themselves as less noxious than they are; however, other features of the personality such as agreeability or non-comparative self-esteem can help derive accurately the presence or lack of presence of narcissism: Disagreeability and comparative self-esteem behavior are both very easy to detect and there are extensive measures that very accurately measure these features that have made narcissism self-reports very accurate https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,072 Many narcissists know that they have a short relationship time span and may try to distribute out their more noxious features to avoid a relatively immediate relationship termination. This may include a relatively morally disgusting narcissistic expression of having partners on rotation: Many narcissists seem to be aware that they have socially noxious traits and seem hyper-attuned to signs that a decrease in positivity due to the inevitable effects of their narcissism is incoming. They are often ready to quickly take certain predetermined actions at the signs of certain signs that the positivity in the relationship has dropped below certain levels showing they are aware that their personality disorder is not sustainable and has a specific effect on people over a certain amount of time. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,073 Narcissists fail to learn from valid criticisms of morally repulsive behavior and show the full depth of what a personality disorder means by immediately going into antagonistic reactance instead of learning and adapting to what would otherwise be a learning experience: This suggests that narcissists know how others see them but often have defenses against them such as âthey donât know meâ or âI donât need themâ. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,074 Narcissists genuinely don't care enough to improve, which is the meaning of moral disorder: They genuinely donât care enough to improve, often seeking revenge or preemptive ego-preserving discard instead even if the relationship was clearly ended by the other party and they were waiting for them to come to terms with it for the sake of keeping them psychologically intactâa courtesy not afforded by the narcissist, who is morally disordered and doesnât care about othersâthus they have a personality disorder that doesnât respond to repeat potential fertile experiences for learning, and remain morally disordered choosing defenses and outsourcing responsibilization inappropriately. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,075 Narcissists don't value their own suffering in multiple failed relationships enough to show they actually learned from the same exact failure last time, revealing just how structural personality disorders are: They donât even value their own suffering in multiple failed relationships enough to improve, showing how personality disorders have collapsed, malfunctioning internal logic. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,076 Narcissists have a combative, sports-like assault-like competition disposition towards everyday professional matters. They are often reported to show deeply aberrant over the top expressions of aggressive narcissistic antagonism and dominance attempts pretty regularly and to blame other people for them: (For example, in Seattle a few years ago a meeting surrounding a supervisory board had a few individuals literally describe an opposing opinion as having had âfcked around and found outâ and in general giving the perception of an aggressive football or baseball game with no talent for harmonic self-accordance required of a high functioning education system; the meeting and attending social media description of the event by grown adult professionals was described as mentally disturbed and full of excessive, unbelievable amounts of aggression for educators toward each other. There was non ongoing ability to put harmony and mutual support first before external threat. This would be a good example of a high narcissism rate where it can be sincerely damaging.) https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,077 Narcissists show a lack of awareness of how repetitive their malfunction is: Narcissists donât mask their narcissistic features and are often very blatant and proud of them, fail to learn from ample learning experiences, repeat the same scripts and show the same externalized responsibilizations, which shows how the research evolves and critical corrections are made. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,078 The need for perfection in others can be a way to distract from the narcissist's obvious narcissism and compensate for it to others as well: Additionally, the need for perfection in others may be a way to create a self-extension that compensations for the psychological imperfection they know compromises the morally disordered narcissism; it can be both a distraction from themselves and their clear personality disorder which they know is apparent if people arenât distracted and an attempt to compensate for themselves and their personality disorder using a pleasing self-extension. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,079 Red pill is a particularly narcissistic lifestyle that helps those studying narcissism see just how narcissists think, including "plates" and "back up girlfriends and wives" to be able to confidently approach "more attractive partners" with a large alleged "back up" of positive appraisals. To most this is morally disgusting giving it its noxious morally disordered effect: Narcissists tend to be agentic when they receive positive appraisals, feeling confident in lots of them, often deliberately and in an infamously morally disordered way seeking to back up their ego with a large variety of positive appraisals to take confident action in the world as literal self-enhancements (for example, the red pill practice of "back up girlfriends" to back up the narcissist's ego when approaching new, more allegedly attractive women from a hypergamy perspective; clearly the definition of a pathological narcissist. Red pill is interesting because it can give insight into how narcissists think) https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,080 When narcissists receive negative appraisals they tend to show reactance towards them through oftentimes compulsive antagonism. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,081 Antagonistic narcissists may use hubristic pride and malicious envy (they receive many negative appraisals and therefore are genuinely failing in their task, and thus tend to view malice as a solution to the situation through obliterative techniques of their narcissistic rival). https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,082 Agentic narcissists use benign envy (they are more successful in their tasks and have no need to feel malicious envy.) https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,083 Narcissists show a "guest stay" approach to relationships which they know are short-lived: They show awareness and normalization of a âguest stayâ approach to relationships whereas more mutualist, less zero sum relationship partners have a âbuildingâ and âconsistencyâ approach that is merely contingent on the quality of the other party to remain stable, low conflict, and agreeable. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,084 Trudeau's resignation is a more rank 3 response to aggressive, antagonistic narcissistic influence attempting to split factions apart, especially in the ongoing horrific phenomenon on attacking whole governments simply for supporting Ukraine: This would be more of a rank 3 response (both not defecting, in this case, regarding parenting and stability) style to rank 1-2 destabilization (both or one defecting) that looks like it is coming in from Putin-based factions just for supporting Ukraine (to take out a whole government just for supporting another going through truly horrifying abuse in and out of union with the narcissistic "parent state" is sincerely horrific.) https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,085 Trudeau's resignation in light of Putin's increasingly horrific attempt to violently punish governments that even come out in support of Ukraine is also a good example of how narcissistic parents will aggressively try to get otherwise non-narcissistic children to express narcissistically, normalizing narcissism, traumatizing them with behaviors only a narcissist would be able to stoop as low as, and otherwise trying to increase rather than decrease these toxic behaviors to get the narcissism to express: The situation reflects how the narcissistic parent will force their traumatic narcissistic maladapted logic and responses on the non-narcissistic child that may get them to express if they do not successfully tuck in against them when fighting hasnât worked and therefore by âtucking inâ against the stimulus refuse to express; Trudeauâs behavior shows such a non-narcissistic preservative predisposition to the ânarcissistic parentâ of Putinâs reign of terror which shows an unbelievably aggressive antisocial response to what would otherwise be a healthy fight response in a high self-esteem child. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,087 Excessive narcissistic antagonism can be a way to go excessively hard on the child to break down any ability for them to say no or to believe fighting back will work, also seen on reversing report by human traffickers, in order groom them for passive victimization in the future. This is especially concerning given Putin's Russia is infamous for selling its own women abroad. To see this affecting Trudeau in Canada and parts of the United States is extremely concerning. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,088 Narcissism research shows it is not embattled in the same struggles of narcissism, becoming more cognitively flexible and more integrated over time, rather than the narcissist's struggle of failing to learn and remaining in the same broken externalization for failures: This fluctuation of grandiose and vulnerable responses is a relatively new feature of narcissism research which described these features as more rigid and separate, showing a healthy cognitive flexibility and integration emerging in the field as mature field developments tend to do. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,089 Etiology, heritability and developmental factors of narcissism are the most critical focal points for future research on narcissism https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,090 Narcissists are notorious for being capable of truly morally repulsive levels of abuse towards their therapists. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,091 Narcissists may also try to scapegoat other people to distract from their own failures to stop externalizing responsibility. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,092 Narcissists do not do well with the vulnerability treatment for narcissism requires, and it is relatively common for narcissists to retaliate and show reactance for work done attacking cybersecurity features under false premises: Stalking, hacking, and studying of therapists in the hope by so doing they as the client will feel less in the vulnerable position is extremely common in narcissistic patients, and shows how critical informational management and cybersecurity is to therapy where these are not taken nearly as seriously as they should be in the current therapeutic environment. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,093 Narcissists often use stalking, hacking, and studying of therapists to try to insidiously shift the psychological concern with the victim back to them and their struggle. They may often try to insidiously insinuate themselves to drive the conversation slowly but surely to their narcissistic woes. Any basically competent therapist will see this and shut it down where the cybersecurity is in place to permanently shut them down from access to their victim's recovery and their insidious attempt to work themselves into it and make it about themselves again as a stereotypically narcissistic and stereotypically broken behavior: In either case, it is critical to completely refrain and avoid the recommendation that the victim, who hardly has enough for themselves due to the entitled violences of the narcissist, should put the psychological needs of the narcissist first. Any such recommendation for the victim to prioritize the psychological needs of the narcissist instead of their own is sincerely incompetent and destructiveness https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,094 Trifurcated models, the most recommended, also need further research on what core constructs are the most predictive of the most clearly narcissist behavior to help the research move in and target these features. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,095 Whether grandiosity is a âfake it until you make itâ, âspeak it into existenceâ or a genuinely held ego-fueled delusion is probably on a gradient of other more nuanced intelligence, self-awareness and agreeability features of grandiosity. Its core construct still is relatively unclear and the attempt to describe its features from the trifurcated model which due to its multiplicity helps to open the space for precisely narrowing down the core construct is critical. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,096 Trudeau's resignation shows how narcissists are prone to informational violence and violation, where he emphasized the importance of conversational privacy which is aligned with the concerns over lack of control in terms of cybersecurity violation that has had an ongoing deleterious effect on therapeutic outcome, including one patient coming forward to me about inappropriate, low positive regard jugdments from Oxford therapy that hadn't even informed the patient about the nature of narcissistic self-enhancement that renders the victim almost like a sex toy in particularly horrific narcissism cases that include sexual abuse. Though I had to ultimately shut them down due to my being aggressively underfunded and not even remotely able to provide and ensure the required security environment for the revelations that were trying to see if they could get out of me, this increase in normalized informational violence and violation shows the mark of the extreme narcissist who is morally disordered and sees nothing wrong with violating or insinuating themselves as narcissists who can't help due to notorious empathy disorder into the most critical healing spaces. Destabilization of myself as a professional was also witnessable, showing the individual was too high reactance to be helped professionally without the proper certification as insurance, security environment, and pay. This is in addition to the obvious basic requirement of basic respect that wasn't sufficiently forthcoming. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,097 Narcissists tend to do better with other narcissists where they can remain non-violent and focused on each other as they tend to understand each otherâs flattery, attention, and ego needs. However, they can cause each other unbelievable levels of harm if they are particularly immature still, whereas a more mature narcissist is not in denial of their disorder and may have a pretty good chance at success with another more mature narcissist also not in denial. This recommendation is made on the condition that they leave non-narcissists out of it, otherwise it is suggested they remain out of intimate psychological relation with others until they resolve their most morally disordered symptoms with a therapist. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,098 No profession suffers no attempt to be infiltrated by narcissists. Narcissists will try to infiltrate every and any field, including psychology and therapy: No type of profession is excluded from attracting narcissists. There is narcissism in science (see; the content on a scientific fraud to secure financial grants), narcissism in patients (extremes of abuse witnessed toward therapists by narcissistic clients), students (challenging teachers meaninglessly for attention instead of on valid questions), celebrities (aggressive abuse of other celebrities), CEOs (aggressive and excessive threat analysis investment instead of just building a robust offering of oneâs own), and American presidents (narcissistic features described on Donald Trump, especially in terms of abusing and triangulating both support and opponents). https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,099 Narcissists can be marked and detected by their complete failure to give back and struggle in even basically respecting the process and act of giving back. They often cite social darwinism to rationalize these parasitic features (see 1,099): Narcissists demand attention and responsiveness in a manner that they in no way give back, showing a dysfunctional unidirectional personality design that is negative return for non-narcissists unfortunate enough to encounter them. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hwjenw/narcissism_today_what_we_know_and_what_we_need_to/ Narcissism today: What we know and what we need to learn, Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09637214211044109 1,100 Evolutionary psychology and social darwinism are a signature of the narcissist, especially the white colonizing narcissist and the white-identifying minority narcissist often rejected covertly and overtly like clockwork by the white narcissist including deliberately exposing them to more negative regard racialized narratives. It is used as a rationalization for their violent colonization, in the same way rapists will say their bodies were stronger than their victims. Cyberterrorists use the same social darwinist rationalizations as rapists in these consent-withdrawn situations and therefore can be treated as part of an adjacent crime with a similar structure to rape, especially where data stripping, theft, white collar crime through data access and interference is seen: Social darwinism glorifies a parasitic stance out of harmonic self-accordance as a superiority position and is therefore fundamentally enmired in the mud of narcissistic comparative logic and is pseudoscientific in most of its premises. Accordingly, evolutionary psychology and its brainchild social darwinism were the techniques and tools that Hitler himself studied and used to premise his work where Aryan pseudoscience is narcissistic in its assertional features that it's not pseudoscience when it has repeatedly been proven to be exactly that. The attempt to usurp science with narcissistic antagonism, reactance, and willingness to sacrifice scientific quality by littering it with pseudoscience to preserve vanity when vanity is at stake is a signature behavior of the narcissist. It is especially dangerous therefore for its willingness to pollute the scientific space with pseudoscience just to win a vanity contest. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hvoafh/narcissistic_rage_and_neoliberal_reproduction/ Narcissistic rage and neoliberal reproduction, Part 3 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600826.2017.1280775 1,101 Defection ranks illustrate how narcissists are well known for having low integrity, defecting often, and being disloyal based on who is giving them the ego enhancement they feel entitled to any given day: The narcissist is well known for having no loyalty and being rank 1 (rank 3 is the highest reciprocity rank, with both parties not defecting. Rank 1 is both of them defecting), defecting to anything and anyone according to who is stroking their ego at any given point and therefore not even being considered a serious agent of any real competence at any point by those with any basic mastery of logical self-consistency. The pride with which the narcissist fails and defects for the attention of it is a notorious and avoided embarrassment; they are better off with other narcissists in their limited worlds and toxic ways of getting attention from each other. However, it becomes a problem when non-narcissists are unwillingly dragged in. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hxa7gr/2025_looking_back_both_sides_learned_0_from_jan_6/ 2025 Looking Back: Both Sides Learned 0 From Jan. 6 After Analysis of the Prevalence of Reactive, Low Intelligence, High Addiction Based Catharsis-Seeking âHate Votingâ Sheerly on Gender Lines in the 2024 Election: Missing a beam in thine own eye: motivated perceptions of collective narcissism, 1 https://kar.kent.ac.uk/103128/1/GPIR%20CN%20Perceptions_Manuscript_for_publication.pdf 1,102 Donald Trump has demonstrated the narcissist's high defection, high switching up feature all too ready to completely shift and destroy his integrity credit according to who is and isn't willing to ego enhance him: Donald Trump is infamous for âpoint blankâ talking up only to switch up in disturbing ways if even basically criticized. For example, during his presidency when he got what he wanted, he was the first to show blanket positive regard for the United States. However, upon losing the 2020 election, he was the first to attack the bastions of US representative democracy like the very revolutionaries he often was found in an narcissistically antagonistic position against. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hxa7gr/2025_looking_back_both_sides_learned_0_from_jan_6/ 2025 Looking Back: Both Sides Learned 0 From Jan. 6 After Analysis of the Prevalence of Reactive, Low Intelligence, High Addiction Based Catharsis-Seeking âHate Votingâ Sheerly on Gender Lines in the 2024 Election: Missing a beam in thine own eye: motivated perceptions of collective narcissism, 1 https://kar.kent.ac.uk/103128/1/GPIR%20CN%20Perceptions_Manuscript_for_publication.pdf 1,103 Hate voting is the codependent reaction of the narcissist to narcissistic injury. They take the high of "hate voting" only to reap the destructive effects long term. Like those with addictions, they therefore show discounting of critical features such as social/financial/political damage for a quick high of the "hate vote": Many individuals who previously voted for Joe Biden showed a similar âhate voteâ when asked to vote for Kamala where they voted well out of proactivity deep in reactance for Trump this time, often unable to give even basically decent logic as to why. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hxa7gr/2025_looking_back_both_sides_learned_0_from_jan_6/ 2025 Looking Back: Both Sides Learned 0 From Jan. 6 After Analysis of the Prevalence of Reactive, Low Intelligence, High Addiction Based Catharsis-Seeking âHate Votingâ Sheerly on Gender Lines in the 2024 Election: Missing a beam in thine own eye: motivated perceptions of collective narcissism, 1 https://kar.kent.ac.uk/103128/1/GPIR%20CN%20Perceptions_Manuscript_for_publication.pdf 1,104 Valid concern for interference is devolving into scapegoating when increasingly Americans have been given the tools they need to make intelligent decisions and now show all the signs of personality collapse "hate voting" at critical junctures, especially misogynist "hate voting" where it would otherwise never be expected such as with the definitional joke of critical-juncture defecting misogynist unionists: Though intelligent analysis of the 2016 and 2020 elections did show interference from both Russia, England (Cambridge Analytica) and China at different points, plus of course Deutsche bank backing Trump sometimes completely against logic, increasingly America has no excuse for not doing its own research and using research that is devoid of highly politicized influence to make their own decision. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hxa7gr/2025_looking_back_both_sides_learned_0_from_jan_6/ 2025 Looking Back: Both Sides Learned 0 From Jan. 6 After Analysis of the Prevalence of Reactive, Low Intelligence, High Addiction Based Catharsis-Seeking âHate Votingâ Sheerly on Gender Lines in the 2024 Election: Missing a beam in thine own eye: motivated perceptions of collective narcissism, 1 https://kar.kent.ac.uk/103128/1/GPIR%20CN%20Perceptions_Manuscript_for_publication.pdf 1,105 A disturbing feature of narcissism is when it shows pride, possessiveness, and even willingness to fight about its own poison and internalizes and identifies all to easily with the war-based strategies to split support systems apart. This can be a very embarrassing feature of collectives filled with narcissists: The amount of people who even took pride in their âhate voteâ poisoning and happily and even with gratuitous extremes of vanity split apart when engineered to do so were a jarring, comedic extra of an otherwise militarily organized malicious campaign https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hxa7gr/2025_looking_back_both_sides_learned_0_from_jan_6/ 2025 Looking Back: Both Sides Learned 0 From Jan. 6 After Analysis of the Prevalence of Reactive, Low Intelligence, High Addiction Based Catharsis-Seeking âHate Votingâ Sheerly on Gender Lines in the 2024 Election: Missing a beam in thine own eye: motivated perceptions of collective narcissism, 1 https://kar.kent.ac.uk/103128/1/GPIR%20CN%20Perceptions_Manuscript_for_publication.pdf 1,106 Waka Flocka shows the narcissist minority's logicless defense of why he voted against himself for an established white supremacist, thinking they will be the one minority in good with established white supremacists: An equivalent can be drawn to Waka Flocka who voted for Trump and when asked why, said âThatâs just who I amâ and then went on a completely logicless monologue when taken aside by his fellow minorities to the point at several different intervals they had to distract from its lack of logic with several ads. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hxa7gr/2025_looking_back_both_sides_learned_0_from_jan_6/ 2025 Looking Back: Both Sides Learned 0 From Jan. 6 After Analysis of the Prevalence of Reactive, Low Intelligence, High Addiction Based Catharsis-Seeking âHate Votingâ Sheerly on Gender Lines in the 2024 Election: Missing a beam in thine own eye: motivated perceptions of collective narcissism, 1 https://kar.kent.ac.uk/103128/1/GPIR%20CN%20Perceptions_Manuscript_for_publication.pdf 1,107 Glorified narcissistic gender-based political beauty contest rhetoric also put the battle before the war and lost the 2024 election in different levels of increasing female misogyny: This fits the description that it is not just Republicans that identify America with being male, these democratic misogynist men and the women who wanted money from them were every enemyâs dream vulnerability with hate and reactance voting simply on gender, glorified gender beauty contest narcissistic female misogynist comparative logic and narcissistic gender logic alone. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hxa7gr/2025_looking_back_both_sides_learned_0_from_jan_6/ 2025 Looking Back: Both Sides Learned 0 From Jan. 6 After Analysis of the Prevalence of Reactive, Low Intelligence, High Addiction Based Catharsis-Seeking âHate Votingâ Sheerly on Gender Lines in the 2024 Election: Missing a beam in thine own eye: motivated perceptions of collective narcissism, 1 https://kar.kent.ac.uk/103128/1/GPIR%20CN%20Perceptions_Manuscript_for_publication.pdf 1,108 This narcissistic fragility and intelligence fraud hate-voting lost the 2024 election (Trump is an established narcissist): Thus narcissists genuinely abounded on both sides, with the definitional living joke of the disloyal unionist and male âhate voteâ losing the election; a short-term narcissistic reactance hate high often based on short-sighted, low intelligence gender hate alone that all of America is going to pay for in the long term. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hxa7gr/2025_looking_back_both_sides_learned_0_from_jan_6/ 2025 Looking Back: Both Sides Learned 0 From Jan. 6 After Analysis of the Prevalence of Reactive, Low Intelligence, High Addiction Based Catharsis-Seeking âHate Votingâ Sheerly on Gender Lines in the 2024 Election: Missing a beam in thine own eye: motivated perceptions of collective narcissism, 1 https://kar.kent.ac.uk/103128/1/GPIR%20CN%20Perceptions_Manuscript_for_publication.pdf 1,109 Defecting unionists are definitionally a joke, it should not even be called a union if it can't perform as described at critical junctures, showing narcissists believe they are in unions but act like they are completely outside of them. Red pill is another example of this narcissistic behavior: Such individuals are every enemyâs dream vulnerability, especially the unionists that were too weak to not switch up on Kamala Harris at the critical junction. That those are called unionists is definitionally a joke. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hxa7gr/2025_looking_back_both_sides_learned_0_from_jan_6/ 2025 Looking Back: Both Sides Learned 0 From Jan. 6 After Analysis of the Prevalence of Reactive, Low Intelligence, High Addiction Based Catharsis-Seeking âHate Votingâ Sheerly on Gender Lines in the 2024 Election: Missing a beam in thine own eye: motivated perceptions of collective narcissism, 1 https://kar.kent.ac.uk/103128/1/GPIR%20CN%20Perceptions_Manuscript_for_publication.pdf 1,110 Misogyny is a massive vulnerability that the US is unable to patch to an embarrassing degree, making us genuinely laggard compared to the gender parity of what were once development peers: As said before, all these individuals would have to do is entrust critical information with a woman in high loyalty to her gender on grounds of its statistically higher proclivity to more consistent and massive violation, and she would never be apprehended or respected to the point the entire United States would fall. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hxa7gr/2025_looking_back_both_sides_learned_0_from_jan_6/ 2025 Looking Back: Both Sides Learned 0 From Jan. 6 After Analysis of the Prevalence of Reactive, Low Intelligence, High Addiction Based Catharsis-Seeking âHate Votingâ Sheerly on Gender Lines in the 2024 Election: Missing a beam in thine own eye: motivated perceptions of collective narcissism, 1 https://kar.kent.ac.uk/103128/1/GPIR%20CN%20Perceptions_Manuscript_for_publication.pdf 1,111 Narcissists can have a disabling effect on their surroundings if at a critical mass (Trump is a proven narcissist, taking on things he can't handle and causing massive destabilization): The narcissists of this country have literally disabled us out of what we could have been by the 2024 failure to learn from Jan 6 about bizarre and mentally ill "hate voting" on gender hate alone. They had 3 years. 0 learning occurred. This is a tell tale sign of the narcissist that, when taken from their ability to inflict moral disorder on their surroundings, possesses something that looks like a genuine rage-adjacent intellectual disability which is the overall aesthetic impression Jan 6 gave. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hxa7gr/2025_looking_back_both_sides_learned_0_from_jan_6/ 2025 Looking Back: Both Sides Learned 0 From Jan. 6 After Analysis of the Prevalence of Reactive, Low Intelligence, High Addiction Based Catharsis-Seeking âHate Votingâ Sheerly on Gender Lines in the 2024 Election: Missing a beam in thine own eye: motivated perceptions of collective narcissism, 1 https://kar.kent.ac.uk/103128/1/GPIR%20CN%20Perceptions_Manuscript_for_publication.pdf 1,112 Hate can lead to a de-intelligencing effect and mass intelligence fraud: The male narcissist and their attending narcissistâs purely reactive short-term hate vote high literally had a de-intelligencing effect; such an act should be considered the sign of intelligence fraud. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hxa7gr/2025_looking_back_both_sides_learned_0_from_jan_6/ 2025 Looking Back: Both Sides Learned 0 From Jan. 6 After Analysis of the Prevalence of Reactive, Low Intelligence, High Addiction Based Catharsis-Seeking âHate Votingâ Sheerly on Gender Lines in the 2024 Election: Missing a beam in thine own eye: motivated perceptions of collective narcissism, 1 https://kar.kent.ac.uk/103128/1/GPIR%20CN%20Perceptions_Manuscript_for_publication.pdf 1,113 Red pill has trained men to see women and immediately think "she's stupid" and "betray" when she's not nor is betrayal going to do anything other than destroy their relationship and their credit. It is another case of Americans happily ingesting their poison to the point of pride when countries are measured by the strength of their families and marriages, and the quality with which those relations are engaged in. Of course, there are female red pillers like there are minorities who think they are in good with white supremacists (they're not). https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hxa7gr/2025_looking_back_both_sides_learned_0_from_jan_6/ 2025 Looking Back: Both Sides Learned 0 From Jan. 6 After Analysis of the Prevalence of Reactive, Low Intelligence, High Addiction Based Catharsis-Seeking âHate Votingâ Sheerly on Gender Lines in the 2024 Election: Missing a beam in thine own eye: motivated perceptions of collective narcissism, 1 https://kar.kent.ac.uk/103128/1/GPIR%20CN%20Perceptions_Manuscript_for_publication.pdf 1,114 In cases of red pill, Trump (a man who literally encourages and actually tries to go through with the kidnapping of women), and splitting families/marriages apart, narcissists can be detected by how readily and easily they fall for it and how they will even taking embarrassing identity and pride in what is a malicious external attempt that feels nothing for them: It is embarrassing to witness the pride, pomp and vanity with which these narcissists take their poison. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hxa7gr/2025_looking_back_both_sides_learned_0_from_jan_6/ 2025 Looking Back: Both Sides Learned 0 From Jan. 6 After Analysis of the Prevalence of Reactive, Low Intelligence, High Addiction Based Catharsis-Seeking âHate Votingâ Sheerly on Gender Lines in the 2024 Election: Missing a beam in thine own eye: motivated perceptions of collective narcissism, 1 https://kar.kent.ac.uk/103128/1/GPIR%20CN%20Perceptions_Manuscript_for_publication.pdf 1,115 Mark Zuckerberg is a notoriously narcissistic CEO who fits the pattern of Elon Musk: Though Kamala Harris has her own features of struggling with citation, accuracy, and respect of information that show marks of the work of Zuckerberg and his attempts to self-emperor himself using terroristic split-opens of the international finance scene to introduce Libra (I think there is a good deal of people that never want to ever see anybody like Mark Zuckerberg, a publicly known billionaire known for keeping his backend strategically cyberinsecure to make money, as an emperor), we are forced into a âlesser of two evilsâ scenario given the massive devastation of the last Trump presidency https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hxa7gr/2025_looking_back_both_sides_learned_0_from_jan_6/ 2025 Looking Back: Both Sides Learned 0 From Jan. 6 After Analysis of the Prevalence of Reactive, Low Intelligence, High Addiction Based Catharsis-Seeking âHate Votingâ Sheerly on Gender Lines in the 2024 Election: Missing a beam in thine own eye: motivated perceptions of collective narcissism, 1 https://kar.kent.ac.uk/103128/1/GPIR%20CN%20Perceptions_Manuscript_for_publication.pdf 1,116 Good stewardship, sound communication, an ability to integrate multipolarity, and a strong comprehension and presentation of respect are critical skills to the CEO position.Narcissistic CEOs do not show an even basically workable comprehension of mutual respect https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hy5jgj/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 1 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,117 Subjugation is the narcissistic feature of dominant leaders that causes profound damage to its surrounding and must be prevented; this includes the narcissistâs tendency toward obliterative envy, deliberate sabotage of all sorts, and governing using humiliation and interpersonal violence. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hy5jgj/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 1 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,118 Narcissistic CEOs get high on the power of governance as a CEO and go for literal governance, well out of their sphere of expertise: However, it is a common issue where narcissistic CEOs get high on their power and go for governance, not realizing just how different the two areas are, and just how limited their mastery of a few products or types of distributions are, often causing massive damage to historical ecosystems with their own historical design that is usually the best for that environmental sociological system. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hy5jgj/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 1 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,119 CEOs are often narcissistic and this can have substantial reputational damage, can shut people down to the receptivity of their communication as seen described in The Myth of the Good Billionaire on Gates which is valid, thorough critical journalism. It highlights Gates has real problems that only serve to further silence creating an incompetent hydra effect making it louder, clearer, and more prevalent across the world. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hy5jgj/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 1 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,120 Most CEOs are narcissists because they cause irreparable damage. What makes or breaks a good CEO is how they respond to and adapt to the possibility that what they are doing in terms of their product is doing irreparable damage. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hy5jgj/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 1 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,121 Narcissists are well known for doing well coming in, putting on the right show, but then doing very poorly in the actual performance, often doing irreparable damage. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hy5jgj/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 1 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,122 Very public CEOs, such as Elon Musk, can see their traits and actions normalized by society. This can have profound effects on ethical standards in the surrounding public. Organizations may have their own internal governance, but that is not the same as external governance in any way where there is no centralizing opt-in feature that an employee takes by becoming an employee and no centralizing, agreed on product which is the central orienting feature. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hy5jgj/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 1 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,123 Elon Musk and Trump, even though Trump was apparently just Chairman of his organization, both have a similar problem with ongoing layoffs. Musk especially is notorious for low distress tolerance and for resolving it with firing as opposed to more long term strategies that retain the reputation of the executive of being able to make clear-headed decisions that have strong logic to back them. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hy5jgj/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 1 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,124 The initial firing at Twitter exactly resembled the technique used in the Russian Reign of Terror to get everyone afraid of the incoming CEO to minimize resistance and make the corporate structure pliable to all sorts of concerning behavior. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hy5jgj/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 1 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,125 Mark Zuckerberg, notorious for keeping the backend of Facebook purposefully cyberinsecure, has also been found to increasingly draw in those he does allow to play around with the overall cyberinsecurity. This includes a lot of firing of people that may get in the way of this âflexible surrounding engineer environmentâ. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hy5jgj/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 1 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,126 Narcissistic CEO behavior is often done to terrorize and to attract attention. They may fire for the attention/terrorism of it, hire for the attention/terrorism of it, destroy, acquire, and do all of the above just for the attention/terrorism of it. The attention doesnât actually get them anywhere better, with these narcissists not doing markedly better or worse than non-narcissists in a way that would rationalize their actions being specifically selected for. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hy5jgj/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 1 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,127 Narcissists tend to not accept or respond to the the opinions of subordinates. Subordinates may then identify with these abusive narcissists and try to move the abuse down the line to someone they consider a subordinate to get in front of the humiliation by passing it down (a weak response), showing how toxic bad CEO behavior is to the local environment. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hy5jgj/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 1 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,128 This is one of the number one weakness often described in these narcissistic CEOs; they blow something off due to narcissism only to later realize it carried real information and was critical. They think they know better, or understand the full situation, only to be completely wrong and to have totally gotten it wrong. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hy5jgj/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 1 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,129 Excessive coordination in operations with a sadistic abuse based element betrayed profound narcissistic injury as the real reason behind what was otherwise an alleged security operation: They placed hostile operatives everywhere the victim went, often filled with a good deal of deep narcissistic rage due to the narcissistic injury the victim had caused them. https://www.reddit.com/r/envystudies/comments/1hz0sgv/marked_as_dangerous_an_investigative_analysis_of/ Marked As Dangerous: An Investigative Analysis of No-touch Torture Methods on Targeted Individuals https://www.targetedjustice.com/uploads/1/1/6/3/116323993/joywomac-thesisongangstalking.pdf 1,130 Excessive coordination in operations with a sadistic abuse based element betrayed profound narcissistic injury as the real reason behind what was otherwise an alleged security operation: They placed hostile operatives everywhere the victim went, often filled with a good deal of deep narcissistic rage due to the narcissistic injury the victim had caused them. https://www.reddit.com/r/envystudies/comments/1hz0sgv/marked_as_dangerous_an_investigative_analysis_of/ Marked As Dangerous: An Investigative Analysis of No-touch Torture Methods on Targeted Individuals https://www.targetedjustice.com/uploads/1/1/6/3/116323993/joywomac-thesisongangstalking.pdf 1,131 Narcissistic CEOs have more corruption and less collaboration. Thus corruption and lack of collaboration can be seen as part of a mutually-reinforcing system when the silencing of voices leads to corruption getting farther faster. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hzwzwg/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 2 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,132 Narcissistic CEOs tend not to collaborate and tend not to show proper respect to their sources and those they interact with. A common theme is an inability to stop condescension stemming from the fact they think their CEO status exempts them from basic, required prosocial dynamics of mutual respect and mutual recognition of autonomy and agency. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hzwzwg/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 2 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,133 Narcissists who are part of a successful venture will make their company an incidental beneficiary. Those who are unsuccessful just move on from massive financial losses like they were nothing. The entire reputation of the institution can be destroyed. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hzwzwg/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 2 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,134 Dr. Ramani S. Durvasula notes the ongoing issue of the need to move into a mature understanding of narcissism that stably describes the difference between malignant overcompensation and worked on and deserved high self-esteem. Again an ongoing theme is people think the opposite of narcissism is the semantic opposite of highly endorsed narcissistic statements, like âI think I deserve more than other peopleâ where they believe the antithesis is âI deserve way less than other peopleâ.In fact the alternative is a more stable, ipsative, non-comparative of âI deserve a good deal, but not dependent or in comparison to other people, outside of just basically seeing what is possible for my quality of life and then asking myself if I would even want that for myself.â https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hzwzwg/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 2 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,135 The myth of Narcissus both is and isnât at odds with the narcissistic CEO. If the organization is considered the Narcissus, the constant grabs and demands for stakeholder attention is completely aligned with the self-absorbed Narcissus, who checks the âreflectionâ of the stakeholderâs expression and remains absorbed and in love with the feedback he or she receives. In contrast, if the Narcissistic CEO is seen as definitively separate from the organization, there is a painful codependence that does not exactly mirror the narcissist that would likely incentivize a more âblasting inâ approach to make it more resemble its reflection in a way that was more pleasing. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hzwzwg/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 2 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,136 Unilateral decision-making, lost connections, diminished communication, and manipulation of purpose/mission/vision/finances eventually lead to a company's demise at the hands of a narcissistic CEO. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hzwzwg/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 2 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,137 Narcissistic CEOs cause ongoing organizational instability. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hzwzwg/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 2 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,138 The author differs from the trifurcated core constructs model to a trifurcated core noxious symptoms standard; grandiosity, attention seeking, and unrealistic self-view. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hzwzwg/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 2 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,139 Narcissistic CEOs are a big fan of Top Management Teams because by keeping these groups tight and occluded, they can preclude oversight that would get in the way of corruption. For instance, Zuckerberg cites his TMT type inner circle is for expediency.Expediency of what? Increasing numbers of government encounters with Zuckerberg must cause us to ask exactly this question; âexpediency of what?â https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hzwzwg/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 2 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,140 TMT members of a narcissistic CEO can be identified by key ego strategies they often pick up due to proximity: TMT, or Top management Teams, fulfill the CEOâs narcissistic esteem needs and become yes-people. These yes-people may share in the benefits of the regulating esteem needs, such as both partaking in the narcissistic responses to âYou donât know meâ and âI donât need youâ, all markedly narcissistic responses pretty regularly normalized and identifiable throughout these TMTs. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hzwzwg/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 2 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,141 Individuals may end up rewarding the behavior by being attracted to the brand recognition and the implications of importance in terms of being part of a recognizable company, even if it is at the expense of a whole nationâs governmental, electoral security, and overall psychological, financial, and organizational health. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hzwzwg/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 2 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,142 Narcissistic CEOs tend to be one-way communicators. They frequently censure negative information concerning their ideas and they are often intolerant of others who voice opposing opinions. They donât care to hear anything back and donât value it, often to their companyâs peril. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hzwzwg/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 2 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,143 Narcissistic CEOs point out that vulnerability lies behind bluster and bravado. They are often in a state of defensiveness and source derogation and degradation belying narcissistic injury. These degradation actions are more a less of a confession that somewhere along the lines profound narcissistic injury has occurred. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hzwzwg/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 2 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,144 âNarcissists are unapologetically interruptive, poor listeners, and non-reciprocal in dialogue meaning they take little notice of what you are, except as it pertains to them.â https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hzwzwg/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 2 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,145 Narcissists donât have empathy, they donât care what others feel, think, or need. They will pay attention to other people or attempt to understand them only if it will advance their own needs. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hzwzwg/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 2 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,146 Entitlement/grandiosity in narcissism is the belief that you are superior to others, entitled to superior privileges, or not bound by normal social rules. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hzwzwg/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 2 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,147 Narcissistic CEOs point out that vulnerability lies behind bluster and bravado. They are often in a state of defensiveness and source derogation and degradation belying narcissistic injury. These degradation actions are more a less of a confession that somewhere along the lines profound narcissistic injury has occurred. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1hzwzwg/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 2 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,148 Insecurity gives people âan itchy trigger finger, and renders them selfishly infantile.â https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i0lxs1/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 3 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,149 Narcissists show a hip coolness or insouciance until their ego is threatened and their confidence shaken. Then their rage bubbles to the surface. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i0lxs1/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 3 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,150 Narcissistic male CEOs don't care who they embarrass in terms of failing with gender equity: It is truly embarrassing how these grown adult men will act around a woman inarguably in a CEO position. The male privileging narcissist of the misogynist cowers in his CEO office in more than one case, cooking up humiliation, financial violence of a superviolent nature, disrespect, mockery, and other genuinely disturbingly grotesque actions for grown adult men simply upon encountering a female peer. It is humiliating to all those responsible for raising them, developing and working with them to witness them act this way, but it is relatively clockwork. They donât care who they embarrass or let down by this stunted behavior. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i0lxs1/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 3 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,151 The stakeholders-as-mirror view is supported by Lasch, who agrees that for the narcissists, the world is a mirror. A narcissist gains confidence by seeing themselves through the lens of their admirers. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i0lxs1/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 3 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,152 People often confuse self-love and narcissism to create the term âhealthy narcissismâ: Though it was with good intent meant to mean self-esteem and self-love, there is no such thing as healthy narcissism which is a pathological personality disorder that is identifiable by antisocial, noxious and destructive behaviors namely grandiosity, attention seeking and unrealistic self view. Though there are arguably good reasons for grandiosity, such as the spiritual experience of the cathedral, there are almost no incredibly healthy versions of these behaviors where they mainly are inflammations of not having enough and should not be adjusted to as a norm. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i0lxs1/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 3 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,153 Narcissistic CEOs are more likely to act unethically, have unhappy employees, create destructive working environments, and thwart the flow of information through the organization. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i0lxs1/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 3 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,154 Under narcissistic CEOs, employees suffer psychological and emotional consequences, the devaluation of their talent and self-worth and the draining existence in toxic work environments. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i0lxs1/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 3 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,155 Narcissists have poor emotional regulation. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i0lxs1/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 3 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,156 Narcissists are callous and do mass scale drastic action sheerly for attention. These are not just âstrong, required CEO actionsâ. They had profound effects on real lives and these CEOs should be encouraged to be have to watch the profound effects on each life their brainless actions had including breakups, psychological devastation up to and including suicide, divorces, evictions, children not being fed, cats and dogs having to be given up and dying, and whole economies being destroyed. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i0lxs1/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 3 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,157 Full blown sadism and narcissism only intersect in very unfortunate cases, but a both sadistic and narcissistic CEO may abuse their privileges out of sadistic pleasure. It is critical therefore for stakeholders to not hire them to begin with for that high impact position: If they get pleasure from these expressions of pain, they have gone beyond narcissism to sadism and may be firing precisely for the entertainment of it. These people need to be removed immediately, as compared to the narcissist who is usually not also a psychopath (those who enjoy things like watching small toddlers fall off bikes tend to not get very far in life) they don't even get anything done with even any remotely compensatory productivity like the merely narcissistic, not full scale sadistic, CEO. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i0lxs1/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 3 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,158 Narcissism research has been around at least for 45 years when in 1980 NPD was put in the DSM-III, however narcissism research is still pretty rudimentary, and littered with the same reactionary devaluation of any highly explanatory emergent phenomenon: explanatory phenomenon many people didnât see the explanatory value and got several features wrong. Why narcissism with its immense promising explanatory power is not taken seriously is often for the same reasons attested to in early studies of AIDS, climate change, and Covid-19. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i0lxs1/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 3 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,159 Similarly, narcissism research, especially for CEOs, is riddled with people who are methodologically challenged for their scientific experiments. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i0lxs1/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 3 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,160 Oftentimes, the question is asked why there are not enough therapists to treat narcissists. The explanation is that narcissists are extremely abusive to therapists, because it requires them to be vulnerable which triggers massive defense capable of massive interactional injustice and interpersonal violence. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i0lxs1/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 3 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,161 Narcissists may be completely unwilling to engage in therapy sessions genuinely, may use the therapist for covert entertainment or irony, may immediately collapse and try to get sex out of it when they donât massively insult the therapist instead, or may ironically engage in therapy in the most noxious and bizarre expressions.They may sometimes use intense, excessive angry outburst to control people and make them afraid of bringing up the therapy requirement. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i0lxs1/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 3 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,162 The shallowness of their emotional life often prevents the narcissist from developing a close connection to the analyst. However, narcissists when their defenses are actually getting somewhere due to the safety and competence of the therapist in keeping the therapy both cybersecure and actually able to deliver results tend to get more reflective, tend to show real capacity to learn in a genuinely receptive way and shows more of a learning capacity where the rigid narcissist still deep in defense does not and thinks thereâs nothing to learn and everything to mock. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i0lxs1/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 3 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,163 The self-tortured core of the narcissist deep in defense usually has a long history of how it came to be so defended, much of which may have been fair reactions to truly unacceptably antisocial behavior: The defenses are often necessarily in place from years of learning that much of this expression was factually antisocial and the world genuinely, for good reason, did not want them to feel too safe to do certain things. There are just some things you should just not feel safe and supported to do. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i0lxs1/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 3 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,164 Narcissists often try to force their way into fields that they have had historically opposed values to: Bezos shows the same inability to take criticism and to try to shut up needed feedback. This is not something any health professional of any competence can endorse when illnesses and diseases require the doctor to hear the bad news of the reality of the situation in order to competently treat it. This precludes initially good ratings of One Medical, and it is observed that it is rated low. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i0lxs1/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 3 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,165 Narcissistic CEOs study journalists for what acting-up behavior gets their attention and purposefully engage in that the most. This is the attention seeking feature of a narcissistic CEO. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i1avvg/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 4 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,166 Narcissistic stakeholders reward narcissistic CEOs, it is not just the CEO: Companies match the narcissistic disorder, often attracting lower grade, more covert narcissists very similar otherwise to the CEO who enjoy making money on the CEO and may therefore disincentivize more even-keeled actions out of a narcissistic greed basically treating the CEO like a money pinata. Just like a narcissist inflates their sense of self well beyond their ability to do so, companies select narcissists to inflate their income beyond levels that are sustainable from a principled, reasonable position. Basically, they incentivize the inflated boom and bust looking for a profit margin. This starts with the greedy stakeholders willing to allow this technique if it makes them money, it is not entirely on the CEO. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i1avvg/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 4 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,167 Narcissistic CEO enablers are most likely to be found in a few key departments: Those responsible for enabling and encouraging this unsustainably inflated aggressive greed satisfaction behavior can be found in HR recruiters, C-suite and the Board of Directors. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i1avvg/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 4 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,168 Normalization of scarcity causes the narcissist to normalize and internalize zero sum: These were essentially fight clubs for children, showing how deranged some Afrikaneer social darwinism is and why it has a lot of resonance with Nazis, which are also monsters bred from resource-failure scarcity that rotted out from under the predatory creation debt of the allies post World War I. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i1avvg/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 4 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,169 Africa receives most of its infrastructure help from countries that have to a large degree developed past the narcissistic zero sum: It should be noted that fascistic zero sum fight club type beliefs that betray an underlying intelligence failure are in no way just the white Afrikaneers; much of the native African population also believes in zero sum and normalizes it, and their infrastructure says as much for them which constantly requires international intervention from China, Germany, and other European states. These infrastructural designs are not possible under a limited, fascistic zero sum thinking process. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i1avvg/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 4 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,170 Narcissists often show mental instability even when they have a large array of mentally stable role models to look up to: Elon Musk had models of mental stability growing up, like Isaac Asimov which is a legitimately stable and reliable figure for modelling high quality thinking and mentally stable resolution of issues focusing on their logical premises, so it is strange when his behavior tends to reflect different features of his development. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i1avvg/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 4 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,171 Intersections between NPD and OCD: Desire for control is probably the most problematic intersection of OCD and NPD. They feel a need for complete control over their lives, circumstances and environment while their unstable NPD features make them more addicted to these features than those without them causing a massive destabilizing effect. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i1avvg/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 4 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,172 Desire for control, OCD and NPD intersect to explain how Elon Musk cannot handle even basic privileges, and immediately abuses privileged positions in a company: Desire for control in OCD when combined with NPD can lead their NPD to think they can insinuate their personal desire for control where they really cannot, such as ongoing backend abuse of users who then never came back, such as myself. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i1avvg/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 4 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,173 When people or stakeholders are viewed as the narcissistic mirror, OCD and NPD comborbidity can cause them to want everything to fall back into place to mirror the narcissist better even when this attempt to install power and control is well out of place: Thus if the NPD mirror is not reflecting what they want to see, it may seem more âout of placeâ and cause OCD aggravations until the NPD mirror is of sufficient positive regard and back âin placeâ. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i1avvg/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 4 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,174 Autistics can also be narcissists and cause a self-inflationary, compensatory effect when it comes to emotional intelligence: Aspergerâs syndrome has been moved to Autism but he spoke on this as well. His struggles with empathy and ongoing signs that emotional intelligence makes him feel inferior and he needs to prove it to the world are seen. His empathy and emotional intelligence issues are a huge threat to that, so there are a lot of signs of some inferiorist behavior around that such as they âthey donât know meâ line and things of that sort. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i1avvg/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 4 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,175 Narcissists do not share space or power with people well. Elon Musks's treatment of the people who used to run and own Tesla is a good example: Elon Muskâs strategic removal of Martin Eberhard and Marck Tarpenning in ways they did not suspect or agree to shows that Elon Musk is more than capable of acts of profound violation. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i1avvg/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 4 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,176 Narcissists may want to be transformational leaders but when push come to shove are not able to transform and integrate the revolutionary identity: Elon Musk wants to be a transformational leader, but being transformational requires you to be able to do things genuinely, fully and with real commitment to integrate the revolutionary identity and take on the revolutionary principle. Otherwise interplanetary visions are what he is known for; the limiting, closing actions of tamping down, destroying and competing however are the complete opposite of this expansive energy. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i1avvg/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 4 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,177 Nations with a collective narcissism problem may have the same issue. Wanting to be seen as transformational leaders, but unable to integrate the revolutionary identity when it is really time to: Other nations that would like to purport themselves as similarly transformational tend to show a comparative collapse, with Russia literally imprisoning Brittney Girner which is probably the exact opposite behavior to Americaâs transformational veneration of Barack Obama. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i1avvg/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 4 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,178 Nations with a collective narcissism problem may have the same issue. Wanting to be seen as transformational leaders, but unable to integrate the revolutionary identity when it is really time to: Other nations that would like to purport themselves as similarly transformational tend to show a comparative collapse, with Russia literally imprisoning Brittney Girner which is probably the exact opposite behavior to Americaâs transformational veneration of Barack Obama. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i1avvg/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 4 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,179 Narcissists with comborbid OCD may compulsively do what they know is antisocial and be relatively unable to stop their compulsion in doing what they know is wrong when in narcissistic injury: Musk again showed a compulsive opposition doing exactly what he knew was the worst thing to do as fits the profile of people with compulsivity issues learning about something wrong or bad who then feel compelled to do it. This is exactly who you cannot have around these sensitive issues. They reopened the factor building Model Y right in the middle of Covid-19. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i1y9lm/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 5 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,180 Studying neurodevelopment for the differences between narcissism and non-narcissism is critical for understanding the disorder: Neurodevelopment can help us to understand these personality disorders before they become too extreme. Feedback from peers and subordinates is critical for resolving this issue. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i1y9lm/ceo_narcissism_an_unconventional_approach_to/ CEO NARCISSISM: AN UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF FURTHER RESEARCH, PART 5 https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1178&context=bb_etds 1,181 Narcissists feel put down, disabled and generally inferior when compared to those they envy. They therefore try to retaliate, putting them down, disabling them, and making them feel inferior as retaliation/revenge for their existence. They then inflate the self to try to resolve the psychological injury. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i37ys0/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 1 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,182 Narcissistic parents show a concerning behavior where they expect their children to raise them as opposed to them raising their children. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i37ys0/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 1 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,183 Surreal envy is seen on the narcissist for their child: Other expressions are a âsurreal envyâ for oneâs child, including Crawford showing extremes of shame and rage over basic sexual activity of her adopted child: âThe older Crawford was surreally envious and ruthlessly disruptive of her daughterâs youth, sexuality, prospects, in fact her entire personality.â https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i37ys0/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 1 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,184 Narcississtic parents view their children as self-enhancements and exact revenge when they want to be their own people and to become independent: Another example is a mother who shows all the signs of viewing her son as a self-enhancement, a version of herself as a male. When he separates himself, she wreaks revenge. This is a clear sign she views the child as nothing more than a narcissistic self-enhancement and that should he begin to have a life of his own he has stepped out of bounds in her view where she views his only purpose is to act as a tool for her. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i37ys0/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 1 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,185 Preventing a child from getting married, trying to push them into lifestyles other than marriage, or otherwise interrupting partnerships or acting like the partner in order to interrupt partnerships are the signs of a narcissistic parent who is trying to retain their self-enhancement, and due to the severity of it, may also suggest sexual abuse: This concept is personified in the motherhood of Cybele who tries to prevent the marriage of her son by breaking down the walls of the city as it took away his feature as a self-enhancement and made him his own autonomous being in relation to another woman. It is not normal or healthy to threaten to ruin or interrupt the marriage of oneâs child or threaten suicide or complete erasure for getting married, or to generally make vague threats at the idea of oneâs child getting married as something locked off to them without specifying why (interrupted self-enhancement). https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i37ys0/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 1 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,186 Male narcissists compete for custody of the child not because they value the child but they view themselves as in competition with the mother for the positive regard of the court: Increasingly, especially in inceldom, a growing amount of men show jealousy for the award of children to women and compete on this point not for the care of the child but in an envious competition with the courtâs regard of the mother as the more loving or trustworthy of the two. It doesnât actually have to do with the child, but an envy of the courtâs regard of the mother, who, usually does in fact tend to have a naturally stronger oxytocin and estrogen based bond to their child that results in markedly better childcare due to more hormonal/bodily investment. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i402dx/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 2 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,187 Parents who are narcissists also involved in sexual abuse may subvert the impulse to kill their child through sexual abuse: Behind much of pedophilia is the desire to kill the child, especially where they are not a sufficient self-extension and it is intended to break down the self to become a nothing except an extension of the parent who is trying to compensate for something with the child at their beck and call. Mixed up in all this process is the hate they feel for this person being young in ways they no longer are. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i402dx/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 2 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,188 Narcissists struggle with the vulnerability of their children when raising them due to their own rejection of their own vulnerability: Parents that could not tolerate or acknowledge their own unresolved and repressed childlike experiences (the narcissistâs vulnerability experience) treated children who reminded them of their own unwanted vulnerability with the same hate and disdain they felt for their own vulnerability due to narcissism. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i402dx/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 2 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,189 Narcissistic logic leads to magical thinking where one generation is collapsible to the next as this magical thinking leads to the facilitation of scapegoating. They don't care about the logical sloppiness this normalizes and put it in the world anyway. The sins of the father being placed upon the child is another good example of how preformal logic and sloppy associative logical thinking can do profound and massive damage to those around it. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i402dx/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 2 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,190 Every generation is supposed to be at least a slight improvement on the next. Narcissists can't take the narcissistic injury of this and may have a clear trend of leaving each generation slightly less fit than the last: Parents who arenât ready for their children to do better than them even though is the healthy, successful thing to have happened (the healthy âsuccessionâ process as a timeless trope for the human species) can be experienced by the unhealthy parent as a mortal fear or a fear of being mortally wounded when succession is a natural process of healthy genetic material moving into the future at a steady rate. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i402dx/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 2 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,191 Children of narcissists throw failure to thrive: âFailure to thriveâ is often seen on the child of the envious narcissist and it is part of mental cruelty. âFailure to thriveâ is clear and marked in children of overbearing, narcissistic, or excessively preformal and associative logical reliance in parents. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i402dx/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 2 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,192 Parents sexually jealous of their children may weaponize the more envious of the children onto the less envious of them: It is not healthy or normal for parents to hate or be sexually jealous of their children, and when it does manifest in violence, it is often some of the worst news in the headlines. When there is such a described abnormality in one or both parents, they can use the more envious of the children to do the dirty work they themselves would like to inflict while playing or pretending to be the envier's victim by working the exploitable envy in the more envious against the less envious one. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i402dx/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 2 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,193 Narcissists tend to betray very easily: Narcissists do not stop their closed-door betrayal and triangulation for anyone. There is not one person they will not triangulate or betray, sometimes immediately without any precipitating previous factor, or whose loyalty has purchased an exemption. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i402dx/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 2 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,194 Narcissists want to be given equal access despite often being of lesser contribution, and get very upset when the lesser contribution is given as a reason for being denied equal access: The desire to be âraised equallyâ may be behind massive and illegal infiltrations such as dataraid, hacking, and the sexual use of data raid better called âcyberrapeâ, including illegal infiltrations of hackable surveillance brands into the most private sectors of a victimâs life. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i402dx/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 2 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,195 Siblicide is often the result of obliterative envy: Siblicide can often be the result of infantile obliterative envy of now being required to share. This can be a pick-up subconscious expression of underdevelopment in the parents who also show signs of operating and thinking like infants, deep still in preformal logic and histronic associative reasoning not befitting the mature adult logical capacity. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i402dx/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 2 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,196 In many ways the aggressive insistence on dependence while the deliberate attempt to evade sovereignty found on British colonialism reflects the same dynamics of the narcissistic parent that exacts revenge on a child that holds boundaries that their sovereignty must be respected: Everything suggests an unbelievable, pretty anti-Russian pitch of envy problems that more befit the âumbilical cordâ style of the UK has in its âfeedingâ attempts to evade, humiliate and destroy the threatening sovereignty than the tendencies of actual, especially deeper mainland, native Russians or generally Slavic people with Asiatic featues. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i402dx/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 2 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,197 Narcissists may govern using humiliation, including paying adults like children and weaponizing illegal surveillance: This approach therefore isnât even markedly Russian and bears a more Westernized, controlling signature with more than one more pedophilic element where the adult is humiliated into being treated and paid like a child so the person can retain a flattering identity as the parent in a providing posture. This is not okay when a nation is a sovereign in the same way this is not okay with an adult is not a child. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i402dx/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 2 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,198 The toddler so jealous of the new infant that it kills them is similar to the toddler-like rage behavior of Russia not only aggressively attacking Ukraine that hard, but attacking any place that supports Ukraine. Another metaphor is the FBI standoff of the perpetrator who keeps their victim in the basement shooting at anyone going into help the victim: It truly reminds one of a sickening boy angry and jealous at the inaccurately conflated motherâs attention and love stuck in a grown adult maleâs body. They are a grown adult male. This is without excuse. They cannot act like a sickening toddler anymore, capable of obliterative envy simply because someone else is loved and supported. Russia shows the same âChucky toddlerâ like behavior towards Ukraine, attacking not only Ukraine but those who support it in its attacks for independence that reflects as well the viciously jealous underdeveloped parent. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i402dx/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 2 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,199 Narcissistic mothers may encourage rivalry and denigration so they can triangulate and move the polarized energy more in their direction, good or bad. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i402dx/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 2 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,200 Narcissistic fathers may send excessive malicious projections at their most envied children in a barrage of excessive, inaccurate and telling histrionic associative reasoning. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i402dx/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 2 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,201 High hate and low love children may hoard hurts like nuts to take revenge on later. Children with the opposite, low hate and high love, may seem comparatively oblivious to how drastic of action the high hate/low love children are capable of taking and are actively taking. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i40302/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 3 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,202 The envy-riddled attempts to denigrate, betray, and take the positive regard from the pathologically envied child speaks for itself about an unnatural, malicious motive. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i40302/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 3 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,203 Hormones and depression may play a large role in the expression of narcissism: It is possible hormonal imbalances or other features may be at the root of such aggressive expressions of zero sum, scarcity-based depression, especially in terms of testosterone and estrogen where the testerone-heavy tend to be more inclined toward tech and means of appropriation and dataraid than the more majorly estrogen individual. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i40302/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 3 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,204 Narcissism, autism, testosterone and tech all go together (higher levels of testosterone in the womb lead to more autism, and excessive aggression and appropriative behavior also has origin in higher testosterone): Those higher in estrogen tend to be more mellow and less inclined to aggression, with estrogen sometimes even being the prescribed remedy for excessive levels of extreme, unbelievable envy and aggression especially surrounding the compulsive, appropriative, and violating use of tech. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i40302/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 3 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,205 Narcissism and testosterone are in related through social system pathways, it is not just individual bodies: Individuals who violate, appropriate and do not get consent tend to be enabled by other high testosterone individuals with the same struggles often destroying the local estrogen levels in the process, ironically with high uterine testosterone one of the precipitating causes of autism. Nature gets its revenge for acts of sexual violence and disrespect of estrogen, with many individuals who struggle with autism stating explicit resentment of the developmental disorder. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i40302/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 3 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,206 Narcissistic rivalry can lead to peak absurdity with the most similar individuals behaving and acting like the most different: Absurdity in regards to the presence of envy and rivalry is seen with Jews and Palestinians having more in common genetically than most outside of the conflict, and sharing many names and customs, yet still acting like the most genetically separate. Even in the ancestry portion of the conflict, Abraham and Isaac as the reason (allegedly) for the warring between the Jews and the Arabs, the two warring brothers reconciled yet the conflict continued on well after this had happened. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i40302/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 3 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,207 Labor depreciation and modern day slavery were found to have origin in narcissistic sexual jealousy by those who depreciated the labor towards those who did the depreciated work: Labor depreciation, up to and including literal slavery, is infamously described in Cinderella with the similarly infamous motive, sexual jealousy at the root. They literally didnât pay her because they were sexually jealous of her. This is similar to findings on domestic service and slavery attempts within it. Often there is no real threat of sexual rivalry whatsoever outside of people the jealous individual has no entitlement or access to. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i40302/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 3 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,208 Just seeing someone consider more attractive could trigger the envy-prone narcissist into a murderous envy: Even just seeing someone attractive can fill an envy-prone individual with vicious, if not lethal, energy. In the headline âCo-Ed Chopped In Envyâ the chopping and hacking act became less covert and insidious and became the overt act of one in profound, violent jealousy at what they described as the individualâs superior attractiveness. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i40302/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 3 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,209 That women don't cooperate is often a myth of the male narcissist and enforced into reality by the same male narcissist: The idea that women always compete with each other to prove they are women and achieve recognition at the side of men is false. âStanding by your manâ and only being as good as oneâs marriage is by no means the only logic of femininity across the globe. In fact, one group of female geniuses and one individual female genius, the Bronte sisters and Simone De Beauvoir respectively, showed opposite behavior. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i40302/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 3 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,210 Narcissists view same sex friendships as inherently gay and try to eliminate them on a zero sum basis of either having the marriage or the same sex friendship. This shows the stunted logic of the underdeveloped narcissist stuck in zero sum: Resentment of men who split apart female friendships is something I have personally witnessed in my own female friendships. This is a relatively common phenomenon, well against what we are supposed to believe about âstanding by our manâ and putting the heterosexual marriage first as somehow in a zero sum. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i40302/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 3 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,211 Men transcending male-privileged narcissism (misogyny) tend to begin to show signs that they are beginning to see penis fixation, including penis envy, as correctly based in broken magical thinking and that this magical thinking fixation must be discarded along logical lines (for example, the worst cases think that any male is smarter than any woman simply for having a penis, this is a good example of logically broken magically thinking about genitals): In a misogynist world that obeys magical thinking about genitals, penis envy may be the result of an individual witnessing just how much better they would have been treated if they had this magically apprehended appendage. However, as humanity matures, increasing admissions and detections that it is just that, magical thinking, are seen such as where it is here described as the âover-invested organâ, another being described that it âlost its magic to cajole attention and aggrandize loveâ like the wand of misogyny itself as wielded in a male-prioritizing misogynist culture. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i40302/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 3 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,212 Situations high in aggressive and violent narcissism can result from a specific brand of brother on brother conflict: Male on male, brother on brother relations can have a more violent feature, often being described in very disturbing Tom and Jerry or âwar is the force that gives us meaningâ descriptions. Some of them may even buy the public opinion just to be more in dadâs eye than the brother. Involving the whole world in this brother on brother rivalry is definitely an issue. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i40302/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 3 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,213 Narcissists may make violent externalized or internalized harm threats when deep in envy: Self-harm and also externalized expressions of sharp sticking of objects and other paraphernalia by the mentally disturbed were the signature of the painfully and deeply envious, to the point of concern. The individual described was no older than fifty-eight expressing these sentiments. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i40302/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 3 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,214 The attempt to ruin a colleagueâs career is also an expression of profound envy. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i40302/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 3 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,215 Narcissists tend to take unbelievably aggressive action on perceived slights, including spending excesses of money, multi-decade feuds, and founding whole reactionary companies on sheer narcissistic injury alone that wasn't even based in confirmed, evidenced fact: Narcissism when in its envious instantiation can reach peak pathetic levels, with the narcissism of Rudolph Dasslerâs interpreting Adi Dasslerâs âhere come the bloody bastards againâ to the sound of allied bombs as somehow about him, to the point he had a huge split with him that resulted in a decades long war with two rival companies out of sheer mental illness by Rudolph Dassler and his attendant narcissism from which the envy was borne. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i40302/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 3 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,216 Humiliation and annihilation are the aims of the envious narcissist attacking their envied rival. Many report a disturbing and oftentimes very illegal humiliation feature. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i40302/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 3 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,217 Narcissists may clearly express a desire to get rich in wars where people are dying, being tortured, and suffering profoundly: This desire is incredibly selfish and should not be enabled if it's true nor should people say itâs fine as long as they âget richâ. For the victims caught in the crosshairs, that is unforgivable. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i40302/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 3 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,218 Narcissists view politics like sports and may selfishly and dangerously use sports analogies for something that affects the entire welfare of whole nations. They may also view the moral contest element as more of a literal beauty contest, again, completely out of bounds given this is a sphere of influence that influences the whole welfare of nations. They put their ego in terms of the alleged sports game or beauty contest before the welfare of all the people affected by the vanity, showing narcissists are unfit for the very political power they seek not having even a basic intuition of how many people are affected and how deeply when they just spend money or make political moves. They show no basic intuition or understanding of the gravity that these people, massive economies, massive social environmental structures, and their lives bring to these massive representations like humongous sums of governmental money. It is like treating lurking loch ness monsters like billiard balls; only someone completely incompetent would treat loch ness monsters like billiard balls. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i40302/why_i_hate_you_and_you_hate_me_the_interplay_of/ Why I hate you and you hate me: The interplay of envy, greed, jealousy and narcissism in everyday life, Part 3 https://www.routledge.com/Why-I-Hate-You-and-You-Hate-Me-The-Interplay-of-Envy-Greed-Jealousy-and-Narcissism-in-Everyday-Life/HBerke/p/book/9781780490328?srsltid=AfmBOoqcHZKKfbJweOMQdlRjZBLQBZkP27n03nKNk5OQh7C6KeMXOMNI 1,219 Narcissists may try to evade admiring someone by projectively identifying. The hope is that by making the person more like themselves, they can take on the painful, admirable difference and wonât even have to bother with the admiration and deference behaviors that the mature adult is more than happy to give. It is a vanity based strategy to avoid admiration and the narcissistic injury of not having that thing that is admired such admiration would entail. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i7xszi/identity_narcissism_and_the_emotional_core_part_1/ Identity, narcissism and the emotional core, Part 1 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.0021-8774.2004.00482.x 1,220 Narcissists may try to relate more intensely through projective identifications by aggressively projecting themselves on the victim to share a self with them to prevent narcissistic injury of the person being better than them or having something they don't have, or to otherwise share in a glory they want but don't have access to. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i7xszi/identity_narcissism_and_the_emotional_core_part_1/ Identity, narcissism and the emotional core, Part 1 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.0021-8774.2004.00482.x 1,221 Narcissists may try to relate more intensely through projective identifications by aggressively projecting themselves on the victim to share a self with them to prevent narcissistic injury of the person being better than them. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i7xszi/identity_narcissism_and_the_emotional_core_part_1/ Identity, narcissism and the emotional core, Part 1 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.0021-8774.2004.00482.x 1,222 Thin-skinned narcissism is often the first to try to aggressively identify projectively. This is to both co-opt the positive feature in the others for themselves because otherwise they cause them narcissistic injury as things they donât have or it is to eradicate shame and project their unwanted self on the other in order to torture and eliminate it for its unwantedness, where unwantedness is a vulnerability that must be destroyed by the narcissist. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i7xszi/identity_narcissism_and_the_emotional_core_part_1/ Identity, narcissism and the emotional core, Part 1 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.0021-8774.2004.00482.x 1,223 Narcissists in denial of their hate and envy that still are clearly in a projective identification position are the most dangerous: Ironically their own narcissism, envy, jealousy, and need to co-opt, extract, and appropriate another's wanted features for themselves is most often the subject of this hated unwantedness and to varying degrees of dangerousness rejected and denied with full-out denial the most dangerous expression where projective identification remains very clearly in place. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i7xszi/identity_narcissism_and_the_emotional_core_part_1/ Identity, narcissism and the emotional core, Part 1 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.0021-8774.2004.00482.x 1,224 The paranoid schizoid position is called the "narcissistic position": The paranoid-schizoid position is held as the narcissistic position because it is closed off due to vulnerability while paranoid insofar as it thinks things that have absolutely nothing to do with them are to do with them. Only a narcissist would have this struggle to that degree. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i7xszi/identity_narcissism_and_the_emotional_core_part_1/ Identity, narcissism and the emotional core, Part 1 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.0021-8774.2004.00482.x 1,225 Projective identification is the narcissistic position and it is specifically only seen in any healthy rendition in infants. Thus the idea that narcissist acts like overgrown infants is based on the projective identification in the narcissist which is only found otherwise on infants. The adult stuck in backwards development phases uses it to avoid awareness of separation, dependence, or admiration. By making the person like them they can claim all the parts they could never have and avoid narcissistic injury instead of just doing what the grown adult does and admiring. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i7xszi/identity_narcissism_and_the_emotional_core_part_1/ Identity, narcissism and the emotional core, Part 1 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.0021-8774.2004.00482.x 1,226 Narcissists will try to push their victims to take up the projective identification: Projective identifiers will try their best to associate the person with themselves or some part of themselves that they hate about themselves and then try to push the person to take up the identification. This is to then transfer all the shame to them upon successfully projective identification and then destroy them from a magical thinking perspective that this will somehow also get rid of it in them. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i7xszi/identity_narcissism_and_the_emotional_core_part_1/ Identity, narcissism and the emotional core, Part 1 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.0021-8774.2004.00482.x 1,227 Narcissists use projective identification to be rid of having to accept that the unacceptable impulse lies in them. Due to the schizoid feature of the process, it creates a real splitting off effect well the intuition that it really resides with them is reduced to barely nothing and they genuinely for the most part convince themselves unconsciously it lies in the other person: Similarly, projecting painful desires through projective identification onto the victim of them acts to immediately reject the unacceptable impulse, of hate, or lust, of murder or torture, onto the victim so the narcissist can remain ego syntonic by conflating reality with their inner perception. They show an "allergic reaction" to the true feeling, often hate, which they find unacceptable and immediately try to find an acceptable projective identifier for. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i7xszi/identity_narcissism_and_the_emotional_core_part_1/ Identity, narcissism and the emotional core, Part 1 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.0021-8774.2004.00482.x 1,228 Narcissists have a disturbing quality where they will take on the personality of their victims who they know are more appealing to society. This is called rivalrous mimicry: This also suggests that Ted Bundy's last words might have been an âingestionâ of this kind of split off projective identification with his victims, things that they said in their last words that he found âparticularly beautifulâ or that haunted him, ghosts of what his victims may had said to him that he tried to take on in himself to have that same sort of value to society as they had https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i7xszi/identity_narcissism_and_the_emotional_core_part_1/ Identity, narcissism and the emotional core, Part 1 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.0021-8774.2004.00482.x 1,230 Narcissistic psychopaths experience emotions as rudimentary intuitions often with a hyperfixation on body parts and humiliating expressions as a way to get revenge for the humiliation of having loved or felt some rudimentary narcissistic psychopathic intuition of love, which from the psychopathic position that is narcissistic about its antisociality they find to be a humiliating admission of vulnerability which they seek revenge on. People without this psychological set don't show humiliation when they just love something or someone: He is permanently it seems stopped up in the commodification and objectification of sexualized body so underdeveloped that he cannot even get close any other way than through the hyperfixation of commodification; that is his closest experience to love, suddenly fixated on a humiliating commodification as a way to "humiliate back" that which has evoked this "humiliating feeling" in him that has caused him narcissistic injury to even basically feel a grain of. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i7xszi/identity_narcissism_and_the_emotional_core_part_1/ Identity, narcissism and the emotional core, Part 1 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.0021-8774.2004.00482.x 1,231 Much of resolving preformal logic of the projectively identifying narcissist involves strict logic work, and not all psychological representational work. They show all the signs of broken appraisal and broken logic (preformal logic): The disturbing effect of projecting very clearly on reality and not even remotely showing signs of seeing how inaccurate the projection is slowly lessens as they spend time with an analyst that helps them establish boundaries of âmeâ and âyouâ, âcorrectâ and âwrongâ, âinside youâ and âout thereâ. A lot of this is literally just logical work; it is not all emotional work. Itâs about as much brainwashing as knowing you have two items instead of one is brainwashing. You can certainly pay for two if itâs one, but in the end itâs just one. The only person that loses out is the person that refuses to improve. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i7xszi/identity_narcissism_and_the_emotional_core_part_1/ Identity, narcissism and the emotional core, Part 1 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.0021-8774.2004.00482.x 1,232 Much of narcissistic preformal logic flaws are appraisal and logic flaws, which fundamentally come down to mathematical and spatial precision features of the brain in not inflating, violating, mislocating or misidentifying: The ego in this case is preconscious, as is the logic; the logic is preformal logic. As form is correctly appraised, logical precision and separateness come with it. Very strong, accurate appraisal is able to accurately and precisely delineate between âthis, not that https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i7xszi/identity_narcissism_and_the_emotional_core_part_1/ Identity, narcissism and the emotional core, Part 1 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.0021-8774.2004.00482.x 1,233 Projective identification is ususally the top defense of the narcissist: Individuals deal with unwanted aspects of themselves by trying to shift the spotlight in a projective identification process in a âblasting offâ âitâs him, not meâ manner. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i8kx9z/the_unwanted_self_projective_identification_in/ The unwanted self: Projective identification in leaders' identity work Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0170840612448158 1,234 Individuals deal with unwanted aspects of themselves by trying to shift the spotlight in a projective identification process in a âblasting offâ âitâs him, not meâ manner. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i8kx9z/the_unwanted_self_projective_identification_in/ The unwanted self: Projective identification in leaders' identity work Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0170840612448158 1,235 Projective identification in narcissists can be either positive or negative: Negative or positive identification results on whether the person presents unpalatable aspects or desired aspects of the self. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i8kx9z/the_unwanted_self_projective_identification_in/ The unwanted self: Projective identification in leaders' identity work Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0170840612448158 1,236 Projective identification in narcissists has a disability feature insofar as it is unconscious and out of control: Projective identification is not a conscious strategy, and definitely seems to have a disability feature insofar as it is âout of awareness and controlâ. They feel unconsciously ârelievedâ of the unwanted self and less conflicted in the expression of the wanted one. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i8kx9z/the_unwanted_self_projective_identification_in/ The unwanted self: Projective identification in leaders' identity work Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0170840612448158 1,237 Projective identification can be a way to be relieved of envy: It can also be a way to hyperfocus on negative characteristics of an envied others. By hyperfocusing and blowing up these negative characteristics, they hope to be relieved of envy. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i8kx9z/the_unwanted_self_projective_identification_in/ The unwanted self: Projective identification in leaders' identity work Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0170840612448158 1,238 Narcissists who view themselves as exempt or don't want to be reminded of the features of a certain identity may find it particularly hard to work with those who remind them of their unwanted selves: Leaders donât work well with those they feel embody their unwanted selves. Even if this person actively expresses what they hate about themselves, they may suddenly show a disturbing hatred of it in another person. For example, a trans person may hate other trans person or a gay person may hate other gay people. A Jew may hate other Jews and desperately try to force the least Jewish person into a Jewish expression so by having that person part of the community they feel rid of all the things they hate about Jews who they have to interact with on a day to day basis, reminding them of themselves. Such cases are confusing but they are actually quite common. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i8kx9z/the_unwanted_self_projective_identification_in/ The unwanted self: Projective identification in leaders' identity work Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0170840612448158 1,239 Repressed unwanted parts of the self can cause paranoia in the narcissist: Since these are unwanted unconscious parts of the self that they try to keep down using an immature repression mechanism as opposed to a mature transmutation-integration mechanism, any sign of these things âcoming upâ can create paranoia and anxiety because it brings to mind something they want to forget if they can and donât want to perceive externally even if they live it internally. They have to see how they appear. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i8kx9z/the_unwanted_self_projective_identification_in/ The unwanted self: Projective identification in leaders' identity work Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0170840612448158 1,240 Narcissists may manipulate others to express their unwanted selves so they feel less alone in them, and/or can project and discard them as if by magical thinking it will rid them of those traits: Leaders manipulate individuals to introject and enact the leaderâs unwanted self to have a steady incoming stream of people who can be scolded, forced, and hated into presenting the parts of themselves they hate about themselves. For example, a murderer who hates themselves for it might hyperfixate on âthe Making a Murdererâ series and try to recreate the dynamics themselves, as if to blame the people who break for being so weak as they were. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i8kx9z/the_unwanted_self_projective_identification_in/ The unwanted self: Projective identification in leaders' identity work Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0170840612448158 1,241 Narcissists can project and counter project endlessly, feeling like "a game of telephone gone wrong". Nothing gets done: They attempt to lodge the projections into each other and to make them true, with the result being that they are just stuck and it is completely dysfunctional. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i8kx9z/the_unwanted_self_projective_identification_in/ The unwanted self: Projective identification in leaders' identity work Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0170840612448158 1,242 The narcissist who projectively identifies goes to pathetic lengths to keep the compulsive tie: Going to bizarre lengths and doing truly bizarre things demonstrates just this attempt to keep the receptacle of projective identification around when no other motive seems reasonably forthcoming and a clear attempt to keep a distance that seems pretty narcissistic from the outside is definitely witnessable. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i8kx9z/the_unwanted_self_projective_identification_in/ The unwanted self: Projective identification in leaders' identity work Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0170840612448158 1,243 The narcissist feels entitled to play out their own internal struggles on external people and characters: Projective identification thus transforms inner conflicts into interpersonal ones. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i8kx9z/the_unwanted_self_projective_identification_in/ The unwanted self: Projective identification in leaders' identity work Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0170840612448158 1,244 The compulsive tie of the projectively identifying narcissist has an addictive feature: A clear âcompulsive tieâ is found on the projective identifier who latches onto the one they so aggressively try to projectively identify with only to betray, be unable to commit to, or otherwise not be able to resolve their relationship to. They encourage the person to interact like they can make good on the attachment, while knowing they canât deliver on making good on the attachment. They show no ability to beat this addiction to antisocial betrayal, stuck in it like a car whose engine refuses to turn with the attending visible and evidenced hacking and sputtering behaviors of the broken unit profoundly unable to truly integrate are evidenced. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i8kx9z/the_unwanted_self_projective_identification_in/ The unwanted self: Projective identification in leaders' identity work Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0170840612448158 1,245 Compulsive harassment and hypersexualization of the workplace in the projectively identifying narcissist: Similarly, the man who hates himself for having sexual attraction to people who just work with him tries to find excuses for his attraction that take the burden off his unwanted, hypersexual self that does not align with his Puritanical vision of himself as in control of his body and sexuality or as a father who has any leadership skill whatsoever. He then fixates on them hoping they will express what he hates so much so he can walk away "relieved" by the transference he so desperately needs to be right about due to his own rejected self, without being unable to resolve the relationship at any point. He shows accepted or denied conditions of projection. It is truly compulsive. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i8kx9z/the_unwanted_self_projective_identification_in/ The unwanted self: Projective identification in leaders' identity work Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0170840612448158 1,246 Narcissists with projective identification show ongoing disability in regards to creating a committal, consistent, or followed through resolution: They show no ability to intelligently control it. Yet, they also cannot stably resolve it, betraying, lying, failing to commit like clockwork. They are physically not able to integrate the unwanted parts of themselves no matter how many times they try showing that a resistant puritanical-autistic rigid split belies real and fundamental cognitive disability. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i8kx9z/the_unwanted_self_projective_identification_in/ The unwanted self: Projective identification in leaders' identity work Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0170840612448158 1,247 A projectively identifying narcissist's disability as a leader can become normalized and cause a self-disabling effect in the whole organization: The family had sabotaged its own best chance and no longer had real swaying power over the firm. That was probably for the best, given most families do not struggle so profoundly to not murder and undermine each other. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i8kx9z/the_unwanted_self_projective_identification_in/ The unwanted self: Projective identification in leaders' identity work Part 1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0170840612448158 1,248 Organizations run by narcissists who are pathological projective identifiers tend to have fraud at every level: Most organizations suffer similar fates when massive fraud is discovered at every level of the company. In a world where the royal family insinuated that they should run governments like a business, the government is no exception. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i8l0u7/the_unwanted_self_projective_identification_in/ The unwanted self: Projective identification in leaders' identity work, Part 2 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0170840612448158 1,249 When feeling detected, a narcissist will search desperately for a scapegoat who is a sufficient receptacle of his projective identification: For instance, a person who views his attraction to men as deeply threatening and outing him for what and who he is may desperately look through whatever evidence he can get, illegally or legally, for evidence of someone else who is in the hot seat and seems like they could be sufficiently gay. He then attempts to violently transfer these projections onto so that both for a time people are distracted from seeing how well they fit with him and also so he can feel that by putting it on someone else who fits the profile it is almost like he doesnât have the quality at all. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i8l0u7/the_unwanted_self_projective_identification_in/ The unwanted self: Projective identification in leaders' identity work, Part 2 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0170840612448158 1,250 Projective identification can usually be separated from "factual observation of traits" by its excessively aggressive, desperate, ongoing nature where the claim is way overblown to the actual reality of the matter in a histronic measure that shows the desperation of the whole mechanism: They usually do it way out of proportion to the level of the evidence. Disproportional aggressive action is the telltale sign. https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronarcissists/comments/1i8l0u7/the_unwanted_self_projective_identification_in/ The unwanted self: Projective identification in leaders' identity work, Part 2 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0170840612448158